Another one bites the dust! Kubina leaves game with knee injury

Yet another Toronto Maple Leafs defensemen has gotten hurt. According to, Pavel Kubina left the game with a knee injury, and did not return (wasn’t home, didn’t see the whole game), joining Colaiacovo, Bell, Wozniewsky, and Kronwall, as the Leafs injured players. This is going to lead to speculation of an impending deal or signing. Tellqvist will likely be gone to make room, and with Marchment and Leetch still available, there are still plenty of options for the Maple Leafs.

71 Responses to Another one bites the dust! Kubina leaves game with knee injury

  1. tml87 says:

    wow that was really really clever

  2. Kraut182 says:

    I think Suglobov got his chance, and wasnt’t that great. He doesn’t pass the puck much, and is a defensive liablity. You don’t want a player like that getting 1st line time.

    And, while I’m far from the biggest Belak fan, the role that Maurice has had him in isn’t terrible. He plays a few minutes a game, he hits some people, he’s there to be the enforcer should the occasion call for it.

  3. 92-93 says:

    disagree on Gill. …… people were saying the same things about Richardson last year ……. come on people!!! for 2 million?!?!! these guys have to play better and do more! wake up!………… Kaberle has played at a totally different level than Bryan and maybe this has always been the case but this season – 4 games in – its really starting to show (so is the deal of locking up Kabby for 5 years at over 4 million – a deal that i think you really disliked if i can remember correctly). ………. McCabe is getting the big bucks and the no movement clause because of JFJs stupidity and lack of foresight (a position that i didnt endorse before because it was too early, but i endorse now after the Gill-Kubina-Belak-McCabe-notrade debacle).

  4. 92-93 says:

    two blow-bys by Neil alone – one in the preseason (where they lost at home with Telly in net) and one during the regular season. perhaps you are right and i am wearing lou-reed glasses here, but i have a very strong feeling that in the long run of this season, Gill isnt going to get any better and probably a lot worse.

  5. 92-93 says:

    well – compared to Gill and Belak on the back-end, Harrison and White are not that bad for rookies, for the rust, etc. Harrison took a dumb penalty but wasnt that bad IMO. like i said, i’m hoping that Bell and/or Coliacovo, Kronvall can step in in the near future and show what a waste Gill at 2.1 million is, Kubina at 5 million (although Kubina has played solid so far), and Belak in the NHL are. ……….. i know it wont be cut-and-dry as i make it out to be, but that is my hope.

  6. LeafsJaysRapsBillsManU says:

    Way to waste your time typing nonsense.

  7. LeafsJaysRapsBillsManU says:

    This really isn’t a ‘keepers’ market. If JFJ thinks for a second that Tellqvist is tradeable, then he better have a look around the NHL…I know he won’t risk losing him on waivers, but realistically, unless Razor or Aubin goes down, all Telly does is take up a roster spot and a press box seat.

  8. LeafsJaysRapsBillsManU says:

    That joke was so good that you should call up your internet service provider right now and cancel your service because that was way too funny for the internet…you sir, are the Carrot Top of internet comedy…but seriously, stop posting where adults post.

  9. LeafsJaysRapsBillsManU says:

    Makes sense, but I really think the Leafs had no intentions of Devereaux playing with the big club…I think he was signed to be Battaglia 2K6…an NHL vet that can help out kids in the A.

  10. wingedim says:

    No I agree with you he is a top 10 D man. What bothered me was the fact he’s got a great shot, but just wouldn’t use it because he’d look for that pass when he should’ve shot it.

  11. Hoondog2 says:

    I think the Leafs good work ethic so far has a lot to do with Sundin showing a lot more intensity than usual, I think it is trickling down to the other players.

  12. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    He’s such a bastard, he was almost gitty at the thought of Pat Quinn getting fired. What a worthless puke.

  13. 92-93 says:

    no doubt about that.

  14. mojo19 says:

    Gill has been great through 4 games, nobody beats him, he never gets caught, he breaks up plays all the time. Just a great overall, solid, defensive defensman. And about Jay Harrison, I’ll give him another chance because I did like him last year. Nordiques is probably right that he was just rusty with being off for so long. But 92-93, please don’t try and tell me that he’s better than Hal Gill because you’re slowly going from one of the peoples whos opinion I respect the most on this site to just another crazy fan.

  15. 92-93 says:

    nobody beats him??? (Neil did – twice, among many others). …………………….i really do not care about whether or not you respect my opinion or not ………. ESPECIALLY if you are basing it on my dislike of a very, very slow and poor NHL defenceman like Hal Gill.

  16. mojo19 says:

    He breaks up so many plays though, he’s a rock back there. I already liked the guy, but now I’m think hes amazing after watching the New Jersey game. Although his penalty was unneccessary, I do like the fact that he is an intimidating presence back there, and he’s a wall whenever there are 3 on 2’s coming against the leafs. I hope a seemingly smart hockey fan such as yourself can put your personal feelings aside and acknowledge the good things he does back there, because they by far outweigh his lack of speed. I just can’t believe you liked Nathan Dempsey so much, when he was one of the worst defensman on odd man rushes the leafs ever had. He was over rated because leaf fans love to cheer for the under dog, and we loved when he got a call up. Just like everyone used to love when Ponikarovsky used to get the odd call up, but when he became a regular everyone realized he wasn’t that special. Hal Gill never gets caught out of position and occasionally gets beat wide. Is he overpaid, is he really worth 2.1? No he’s not, but you have to overpay for free agents. Judging what other guys are getting I would have certainly paid between 1.5 and 2 million for his services.

  17. 92-93 says:

    there is absolutely nothing personal in my feelings towards Gill. its purely a hockey opinion. if you dont like it fine. if you think its indicative of me not being a smart hockey fan – thats fine too.

    for the price and skill, Dempsey is way better than Gill. So is Kronvall and a lot of the leaf kids. the only difference is that they need some seasoning in the NHL whereas Gill already has that. but just like Berg, Khavanov and others, they have worn out their welcome for me. Give the kids a chance and keep the cap space open. especially in the cap era, its no longer the case of blindly cheering for kids getting called up because they are underdogs ….. they are also CHEAP underdogs and effective ones at that. the fact that you can admit to the 2.1 million but then qualify that with ‘but you have to for free agents’ does NOT make the signing any more reasonable. Even Kubina i can grudgingly admit that 5 million is too much but somewhat necessary. But Gill – no way!

  18. mojo19 says:

    I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. As much as I like Kronvall, Colaiacovo, Ian White and Brendan Bell, I’m not crazy about Harrison and Wozneiski, and I don’t like Belak on the blueline either.

  19. mojo19 says:

    Mind you, with Wozniewski its like you said about just needing some seasoning, and the same could probably be true about Harrison.

  20. 92-93 says:

    yeah i’ve agreed to disagree with a lot of people about Gill in the past couple of weeks. I think with the top 3 that the leafs have (all except Kaberle are overpaid but i digress) – Kubina-McCabe-Kaberle – there is room for one of the young D-guys to pick up big time minutes beside Kubina (my choices are white or Colicacovo). one of these guys are bound to fufill that role. White should be getting that chance now and i dont think he is doing that bad.

    for the third tier spots on D, i think guys like Kronvall, Bell and to a lesser extent Woz and Harrison are ready for those spots now. so you have an overpaid top-3 at 15 million and a near-league-minimum (about 1.5-2.5 million), younger bottom-3 on D. the top 3 are entering their prime the bottom 3 are learning their craft and the D should cost about 17-18 million. that sounds good to me.

    do i think Mitchell or McKee would make a better and cheaper fit than Kubina – no question. but what is done is done. I think the leafs are stuck with Gill for awhile and that has to be accepted. all i can hope for is that he keeps Belak out of the D-corps, remains on the 3rd tier and is paired up with someone who is speedier which was all being done before the injuries. is that worth 2.1 million of cap space or half of that? no.

    my main focus for this year is the kids – the Williams, Suglobovs, Steens, Stajans, Coliacovos, Whites, etc. the other focus is keeping an eye on who should be elminated from the leafs roster via trade or just letting them go and right now that list includes Gill, Telly or Aubin, Antropov (simply as a tradeable asset), Belak and maybe O’Neill. Combined – that’s nearly 6 million of cap space that can be shipped out. finally, the third focus for me this year is the possibility of a wholesale change by this year’s trade deadline (trading Sundin, Tucker, Kubina, Peca, etc.), which i dont think is necessary but you never know by the deadline.

  21. mojo19 says:

    Agreed that all are over paid except Kaberle. Please excuse any minor errors as it its friday night and i just got in, drunk. I like Kronvall a lot, White I think is amazing. And as far as Kubina compared to McKee and Mitchell, is the price really that different?hardly, and the leafs gota more skilled guy. Mitchell is a way more overpaid player than Kubina. Although I agree McKee is a wicked hockey player. I’d still rather have Kubina over McKee because hes the more skilled player and Kubina is overlooked for his defensive ability. More comments to come when I sober up.

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