Bouwmeester and Miikka Kiprusoff may be available

Finally, in a radio interview this past week Feaster suggested trades are in the offing. This time, Jarome Iginla’s name is not among them. However, in spite of his no trade clause Defenceman Jay Bouwmeester may be in play. In fact, a member of the Flames organization suggests that is exactly the case. As well standout Miikka Kiprusoff may be available in a goaltending market that has grown this offseason. If that’s a fact the Flames deck could be shuffled greatly.

In the end while little has been said publically by the Flames, gossip prevails in Southern Alberta. Obviously, Feaster is right to lay as low as possible.

21 Responses to Bouwmeester and Miikka Kiprusoff may be available

  1. FlamingHomer says:

    A 6.7 mil defenceman who doesn't score, hit or block shots should be easy to replace with someone more effective. Finding someone to take J Bo for any type of a decent return could be the trick.

    Kipper could probably fetch some good players in return but all the goalies remaining in the Flames system are very questionable NHL starters. If Kipper goes, Feaster may as well blow up the rest because it ain't going to be pretty.

  2. SabresFan220 says:

    If Boumeester is really as bad as Flames fans believe, nobody's going to eat that contract without sending you a bad one of their own. He's just never been a good fit in Calgary, and I'd try to send him to a team looking for a guy that can lead the powerplay. That's where he'll have value and a team that may want to give him a shot as a reclamation project. Think of it like Brian Campbell, but younger and a bit cheaper. Who are the teams building young defensive corps and could use a veteran to lead them (and happen to have cap space)? If you'll take a few spare parts in return, and maybe a mid round pick, you can probably get him to move along.

  3. FlamingHomer says:

    I think he is more frustrating to the fans than he is to the coach. Sutter played him 30 minutes a night. Your trade value seems pretty accurate but I'm thinking that won't be enough for Feaster.
    He seems like a natural to run a powerplay but that was one of his biggest weaknesses.

  4. albertateams says:

    If that's all the return no way the Flames should move him. He's only got 2 years left on his contract. Sure he's over paid by 2 million a year but where in free agency or via trade are the Flames going to replace his 26 min a game on the top pairing. I agree he's been disappointing as a Flame but guys that play as much as him should not be over looked or swapped out for spare parts and mid round picks. If something substantial is coming back in a trade then the organization should consider it, but that is probably unlikely. Also, the Flames do not need the cap space this offseason, so why dump him.  

  5. Steven_Leafs says:

    unless Calgary is going the full re-build route and unless they get a minimum of a late 1st round pick and some salary back (but not bad salary like Gomez or Gionta) then there is no point trading Bouwmeester IMO.

  6. albertateams says:

    From what's been written in Calgary it seems the Flames are really trying to get Ramo to the NHL by the fall. He's got one year left on his KHL contract and it appears the club isn't keen on letting him out of it.

    If the Flames can get Ramo to the NHL, then a Kipper trade might not be that bad. A pairing of Ramo and Irving for next year would be a huge unknown however it would allow the Flames to see what they have in the 2 young net minders. If they they play well, great. If they struggle the Flames get a high draft pick and have to look else where for goaltending.
    As important as Kipper is to the Flames, his trade value isn't going to get any higher and with a weak UFA goaltending class and several teams needing to upgrade the position (TO, TBL, CHI, CBJ) maybe the Flames can get a really solid return.
  7. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    J Bo's looked really good in the World Cup right now. Could just be being paired with keith but hes done well. 

  8. SabresFan220 says:

    It's true, Boumeester is still a decent top 4 defenseman even if his numbers have been down since joining Calgary. He plays a ton of minutes, and even if his +/- has been in the toilet recently that can change on a new team. I'd expect a trade that includes a high end prospect who might be NHL ready and (a somewhat overpaid for what he produces) roster player. Calgary won't want to take on a long term deal though, someone who's signed for 2-3 years wouldn't be that bad though. There are several teams that are either losing their main PP QB, or just don't have a good one that could see Boumeester as the answer.

  9. hockey_lover says:

    I know this is an overused expression but … I could probably look good playing along side Duncan Keith.  the guy is unreal.

  10. FlamingHomer says:

    Looking good against Kazakhstan and looking good against Detroit are two different things.

  11. FlamingHomer says:

    I can't say I know enough about his play to get excited about that. I see decent stats but he is also famous for giving up some You-Tube worthy goals as well.
    Irving wasn't even the starting goalie in the AHL playoffs.
    I can't see Feaster keeping most of the core only to have a couple of sieves in goal.

    What is your take on Ramo?

  12. albertateams says:

    I like Ramo. I saw an interview where he explained the reason he went to the KHL was to play more games. He basically said for his development as a goalie he felt he needed to play 50+ games rather than 15 as a back up in the NHL. His KHL stats are strong and most scouting reports indicate he's better equipped for the NHL than before. 

    Irving not starting had more to do with the streak Danny was on than his play. For his games in the NHL only the Boston game stands out as a game he looked over his head and that had as much to do with the teams play. There were times that Irving looked great as well, that game against Vancouver was a fantastic goaltending display by a rookie.
    Calling the two sieves is a bit strong. Unknowns or question marks, sure but I actually like what the Flames have assembled behind Kipper. Irving Ramo, Ortio and Brossoit form a solid potential for the future, they might not be ready yet but its not a bad group to have for the future. Goaltending is such a time intensive position to develop properly.  
  13. wayne2 says:

    Here's a suggestion for a trade:

    Colorado needs help on defense and Calgary need to get younger on forwards plus a good playmaker for Iginla so:

    To Calgary:Paul Stasny
    To Colorado:Jay Bouwmeester

    Roughly the same salary and around the same age so makes sense to me.

  14. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    Stastny is worth more imo but stastny would look great with iggy

  15. Steven_Leafs says:

    nice starting point, but Stastny's value is waaaay higher than Bouwmeester. If I were COL and I wanted Bouwmeester, I would ask for Backlund+ to be added to the Stastny deal.

    I do like the idea of Calgary going after Stastny, could be exactly what they need to make the playoffs.

  16. reinjosh says:

    Bouwmeester is overpaid but he's not the player many make him out to be. He's a minute muncher and still a top line player, just not one that plays like the Weber's or Doughty's of the world. He's a low end top pairing guy but still a guy that can be depended on to play a solid role. He'd be incredibly hard to replace.

    He may not be worth a top prospect, a first rounder and a roster player, but he's worth something of quality. Trading him has to make sense and trading him for a dump or a lowly pick doesn't make sense. I'm cool keeping him at this point. 
  17. reinjosh says:

    Trade him! It's the best move. Trade an asset right before it starts to depreciate. 

    Kipper is a quick way to get some new assets to build around and gives the team some cap to work with (although it isn't a necessary need). Plus it finally changes the team's direction. 
  18. reinjosh says:

    I would love for Maata to be available when the Flames pick. Or Poliout. 

  19. FlamingHomer says:

    Interesting. That might get it done if the Flames have decided that Backlund's progress may be stalled. I think this could be the year that defines Backlund's career. Hopefully a new coach will allow some creativity on the team.

  20. mojo19 says:

    I've been reading some of your comments. Here's my take on Jay-Bo:

    I think he's a really good defenceman, but definitely over payed at $6.68 million. Still, I think they could get something back for him.
    A) a decent draft pick (late first or a 2nd) + workman-like defenseman with some salary in the $3-5 million range, ideally on an expiring contract. 
    Example: To Pittsburgh for their 1st rounder and Zbynek Michalek (2 yrs $4 mil cap hit remaining). Calgary gets to add a prospect with the pick, and shave off close to $3 million in salary each of the next two seasons. Michalek, meanwhile faces similar criticisms in Pitty, and hasn't lived up to his contract. Could be a move that works for both sides.
    B) Two players back and a late pick, ideally on expiring contracts who can all contribute. One of whom should have some kind of upside and potential.
    Example:To Columbus for Derrick Brassard (2 years $3.2 mil) + Mark Methot (2 years $3 million) + 4th round pick.
  21. Steven_Leafs says:

    value-wise I don't think the deals are that bad, I don't know if Bouwmeester can fetch a low 1st at all unless the contract coming back is really bad though.

    As for the deals themselves I doubt the Pens will take on yet another 7M cap hit on one contract like that, especially for that price. Maybe they would do Martin+52nd overall pick for Bouwmeester but with that cost Calgary would probably turn it down.

    The Columbus deal isn't that bad but I don't think they will give up Brassard to take on Bouwmeester's contract unless Calgary is willing to send one of Karlsson, Irving or Ramo. Maybe something like Bouwmeester, Irving for Brassard, Methot, 45th overall pick would do it.

    Tough call really, I could be very off on this but that is my take.

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