B's, Oilers consider flip-flop at top

While there remains some debate about just how the first two picks in June’s NHL draft will work out, the Edmonton Oilers, who own the first overall pick, and Boston Bruins, who acquired the second overall pick in a deal with Toronto, have discussed a possible deal to ensure both get who they want.

The consensus top prizes are Taylor Hall and Tyler Seguin , but there is no consensus on who should go No. 1.

“We came out with one guy ahead, but it flip-flopped,” Bruins general manager Peter Chiarelli said Wednesday after the GMs’ meetings in Philadelphia. “If it was a sizeable enough gap, we would look at a deal. Whatever premium we put on it, their gap might be bigger.”

Chiarelli said calls from other teams about the Bruins’ pick have started to trickle in.

“They’re slowly coming forward the last couple of days,” he said.

The calls might not only be about the No. 2 pick as Chiarelli has a number of attractive picks at his disposal, including the 15th, 32nd and 45th overall this year as well as four picks in the first two rounds next year.

Edmonton GM Steve Tambellini was headed to a scouting meeting at the conclusion of the GM meetings and the two top prospects will be the center of discussion.

“I’ve purposely not tried to express my views to our scouts as much as possible,” he said.

Would he trade the No. 1 pick?


16 Responses to B's, Oilers consider flip-flop at top

  1. number15 says:

    Oilers are stupid… Boston will use the first overall to pick Taylor Hall….. Tyler Seguin is a bust at 2nd overall, trust me

    Edmonton desperately needs a franchise player,  since no one wants to sign there. Taylor Hall is their man!……. Seguin will disappoint

    If Boston pulls this off and takes Hall, Chiarelli is going to the Hall-of-Fame, officially

  2. hockeyhead says:

    what is with your smear campaign against seguin?

  3. albertateams says:

    It totally depends on what else the Bruins give up. I want the Oilers to draft Hall at #1 but if Boston puts a crazy deal together of picks and prospects the Oilers would be stupid to not consider it. Hall or Seguin could be complete busts (I doubt either will) but its possible.

    I'm not saying Boston would offer this but if the offer is:

    Edmonton: 2nd overall, Colburn, leafs 1st 2011
    Boston: 1st overall

    The Oilers would be foolish not to consider it. You think that there just going to flip picks for nothing?  It totally depends on what deal is put forth and how bad the Bruins want Hall.

  4. hockeyhead says:

    b's would be giving up too much for that pick.

    they need to unload salary and edmonton totally blows so they could use these players.

    to boston 1st overall and souray.

    to edmonton 2nd overall, tim thomas, andrew ferrence, blake wheeler and michael ryder.

    now that would be a dream trade……for the bruins/fans

  5. albertateams says:

    I agree that's too much but the previous post said no way to trade the top pick my point is that you have to evaluate any trade proposal.

    As for your trade I doubt the oilers go for it besides the 2nd pick the only valuable piece for the rebuild is Wheeler. Thomas fits no role in Edmonton they already have an old over paid goalie in Bulin. Ferrence and Ryder are bad contracts. Ryders is aleast only one year. But no way Edmonton eats Ferrance and Thomas's contract for 3 years at over 7 million cap hit per.

    If Boston wants to get rid of those three contracts they could look at:

    Edm: Thomas, Ryder, Ferrence, 2nd overall, Wheeler
    Bos: Hemsky, Penner, 2nd round 2010

    It doesn't get them Hall but it gives them two top six wingers and 5 million in cap room.

  6. pezzz123 says:

    I'm gonna put forward a totally different scenario here.

    The Oilers are already stacked at forward with prospects. What they need is a franchise d-man.

    The Jackets are looking for a #1 center to play with Nash.

    To Columbus : #1 overall, Sheldon Souray, Patrick O'Sullivan, Ethan Moreau, Andrew Cogliano

    To Edmonton : #3 overall, Mike Commodore, RJ Umberger, Kristian Huselius, 2nd rounder 010, 2nd rounder 011

    Columbus draft Tyler Seguin  #1 overall

    Edmonton draft Cam Fowler #3 overall.

  7. hockeyhead says:

    i agree.  i dont understand chiarelli and his signing these contracts.

    especially thomas and ferrence.

    ryder had a good year and only one more.

    wheeler could still be a good player and prolly will under different systems/coaches.

  8. Magleaves says:

    thomas was one of the best golies in the legue in his contract year.

    That was a good signing, but they should have traded him while they could when rask showd he could do a better job.

    Uless of course he has a NTC then maybe then it would be a poor signing just because they new rask would be good, not great but at least good.

  9. broc says:

    I'm not sure what this deal is supposed to accomplish for Edmonton (besides upsetting Oil fans)… they give away their #1 pick with a few overpaid underachievers….. they downgrade to the #3 pick,, and get a different group of overpaid underachievers in return?

    This deal really seems pointless. Edmonton will want something substantial in return.. none of these players did anything for Columbus, and they wouldn't do anything in Edmonton either. And Oil would be giving up the #1 to boot.

  10. broc says:

    "trust me"…

    Uhh I think I'll go with all the pro scouts who believe there's a huge gap btw Seguin/Hall and the rest of the pack.

    The only "bust" here is your proclamation of Seguin being a bust.
    Worse, you give no reason whatsoever. Everyone should just believe, lol

  11. Boston_Bruins says:

    I'm against trading up unless they can get Edmonton to somehow take the Bruins unwanted salary. I fully expect Seguin to fall to number two and if he doesn't I probably won't be looking for a bridge to jump off of. I'd way rather want Chiarelli to put a package together to grab one of the top 3 defensemen.

  12. albertateams says:

    Would you consider the deal i proposed above? Solves all your cap issues. Doesn't leave with a top 2 pick though.

  13. Tachmo says:

    I do not like that deal really. Basically throwing away the #2 pick just to shed some salary. I dont think so. Hemsky is a hell of a player and Penner I am not quite sold on yet. The only way I like a trade with Edmonton is if Eberle or the #1 pick is coming back to Boston.

  14. Tachmo says:

    I think there is a considerable drop off after Seguin and Hall. It looks to be a two horse race. I am glad Boston has one of those picks. It really is the only thing in my opinion that makes up for losing Kessel's, probably 40 goals this past season in a Bruins uniform. In a different world, Boston could be playing Chicago right now for the cup. Kessel might have been the difference in the Philly/Boston series. Well….that is a lot of what if's.

    I really think Edmonton needs a centerman so they should be keen on Seguin and Boston really needs a winger, so they should be keying on Hall. On the flip side if they are going to overpay for the flip flop, I say no, I would be more than happy with Seguin at #2.

  15. hockeyhead says:


    and he is 35 + so they cant buy him out. 

    very bad contract.

  16. albertateams says:

    You could take Wheeler out? I wouldn't say its throwing away the secound pick Penner is coming off a 32 goal year playing with far less talented line mates than he would in Boston. Hemsky when healthy is an amazingly creative player.

    Ryder and Ferrence have no value/negative value due to cap hits and Thomas due to the contract is pretty low in terms of trade value. 

    The reason I like the trade for Boston is that I think next year they are a top 4 team in the east. Add a couple of solid pieces remove the cap liabilities and the B's have a shot 2-4 cup runs with this core. And the best part about it is that they give up one pick/prospect they still have a ton of picks and prospects in the system. Frees up enough room to sign all important RFA and UFA and add aback up goalie.
    Can you imagine Boston icing a team like this:
    Lucic Savard Hemsky
    Penner Bergeron Wheeler
    Strurm Krjeic Recchi
    Paille Sobotka Begin
    Chara Wideman
    Sidenburg Boychuk
    Hunwick Stuart
    That line up has the potential to be crazy good.

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