Ex-Leaf executive says the Oilers may be interested in Dion Phaneuf

Former Maple Leafs assistant general manager Bill Watters was interviewed on Oilers Now on Friday, and he had both an interesting rumour and some harsh words for Toronto captain Dion Phaneuf. In part, here’s what he had to say:

Dion Phaneuf should be dispatched as soon as they possibly can and the story I hear is that Edmonton’s interested and if they are tell [general manager Craig MacTavish] to take him and have fun with him. I find him to be the most overrated, undernourished hockey player in the history of the NHL and whoever made him the captain of the Maple Leafs should have been fired six years ago.

Watters further criticized Phaneuf over the course of the interview, with a particular emphasis on his character and leadership abilities, but the interesting thing from an Oilers perspective is his idea that Edmonton is interested in adding Phaneuf to their defence corps.

At first blush, it’s easy to make a case for the match between player and team. He is a legitimate top-pairing defenceman who adds size (6’3”, 214 pounds), scoring ability (scored at a 48 point pace this season), snarl and at the age of 28 is a pretty decent fit for the Oilers’ young cluster of talent.


18 Responses to Ex-Leaf executive says the Oilers may be interested in Dion Phaneuf

  1. mojo19 says:

    Phaneuf and Bozak for The Nuge and Smid. Done.

  2. kessel_leafs81 says:

    I don’t know if I’m that sold on nuge yet, obviously he has huge upside but I’d rather go for a bigger upgrade on defense, no secret that Philly is in cap trouble and will be looking to deal, knowing holmgren that slimy bastard will try to upgrade while shedding salary.. Coburn has been rumored and meszaros being a ufa with not much room to resign him could also be had for cheapish..

    To tor: Coburn and meszaros

    To Philly: phaneuf holzer

    Leafs let gunnarson walk, resign Kadri and franson around 3 mill each in prove yourself deals

    Phaneuf – timmonen
    Streit – schenn
    Grossmen- Gustafson

    Solid for Philly

    Coburn- Reilly (if makes the team)
    Gardiner- franson
    Meszaros – Liles

    Pretty solid, with 2.5 million coming off the books in buyouts next year (tucker Armstrong) and retained salary (frattin scrivens) And a long term/cheaper replacement for phaneuf.

    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

      That`s not bad Kessel and works for both teams as Timmonen is 38 and UFA, Philly could use a guy like Dion moving forward and Toronto could use a guy like Coburn to play with Gardiner(where I would put him). Solves some issues for both teams, although I don`t like just letting Gunnar walk as I feel he has decent value. Mezaros has had a couple tough seasons injury wise, but could be a physical gem if healthy.

      I would go with

      Gardiner Coburn
      Mezaros Franson
      If possible to keep Gunnar, he may be a good guy with Reilly, should he be ready.

  3. kessel_leafs81 says:

    I just said let him walk because we’d have no room under the cap, he’d be a cap casualty especially if he’s asking too much, maybe trade him for a 3rd or something before arbitration so we don’t have to let him walk? If we don’t make a trade like this id wait to see what arbitration awards before determining what to do with him

    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

      I understand why you said let Gunnar walk…I’m just not thrilled with that idea.lol
      Think of
      Gardiner Coburn
      Mezaros Franson
      Gunnar Reilly
      That looks like the start of a solid unit to me. Current cost being only about $18mil. That is low for a D group. Problem is Liles moving it up to about $22mil. All depends on what Gunnar gets in arbitration.

  4. kessel_leafs81 says:

    Ya I’m surE a team will take likes even cheap for like a 5th he’s a solid player but if it means letting Gunnar walk or trade liles for next to nothing and keeping Gunnar I’m all for it, a nice mix of offense, physicality, and size in that core

  5. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    The more I have had time to think about it, the less I like the Bozak signing. I would really have preferred we put JVR in the middle and used that money on Bozak somewhere else. Not knocking Bozak, I just think JVR down the middle has better upside than Bozak there.

    Lupul JVR Kessel
    Kulimen Kadri Clarkson

    compared to $4.2 mil more for
    JVR Bozak Kessel
    Lupul Kadri Clarkson

    Is it $4.2 mil better? I like the wings better with JVR there, but the middle looks stronger with JVR and Kadri over Bozak & Kadri. Take most of the $4.2 and add Penner. Trade Liles for Gaustad (as I’ve mentioned before, still think that one makes sense)

    Lupul JVR Kessel
    Penner Kadri Clarkson
    Kulimen Bolland Colborne
    McClement Gaustad Orr
    Ex McClaren/AHLer earns spot

    I like that better than the current mix with Bozak in there.

    • toronto77 says:

      I think the no.1 fattest reason for re-signing Bozak is so we can re-sign Kessel next year. No secret that Kessel is a pretty shy guy around the media and who knows what his personal life is like in Toronto, but him and Bozak are really close friends and Bozak walking could influence Kessel to not re-sign here.

      He’s obviously not a fan of the media and he says that he loves playing here and this and that but that could just be BS for the camera.

      If I were the GM, I would hate the idea of re-signing Bozak to play in the top 6, but if it means re-signing Kessel than I would have re-signed Bozak too.

      I’m with you, I hate re-signing Bozak but it’s a smart investment.

      • realistic_leafs_fan says:

        I get your reasoning and if Bozak was a $1mil a year 4th liner…then whatever, sign him and keep Phil happy. But to give him first line duty, when he is a second line centre at best AND a 5 yr $4.2 mil per season contract, that’s a hell of a lot just to keep Phil happy. It’s also a lot of pressure on Kessel to make sure he preforms at an elite level to justify keeping his buddy and giving Bozak the role Kessel wants him in. With Kessel likely to get around $7mil, that would be over $11mil tied up in those two, so they will need to perform at a pretty high level to justify keeping them together.
        If that’s really Nonis’s main reason for the fast re-sign…that’s really poor business and hockey management.imo It’s one thing for Hull to say “I need Oates” as Oates was a very gifted playmaking centre, it’s another thing completely for Kessel to say “I need Bozak” …and have management listen.

  6. kessel_leafs81 says:

    I wouldve liked that better too, lines I’d do different tho cause Kadri would have nobody with him off the rush with two slow wingers I’d perfer

    Lupul – jvr – kessel
    Kulimen- Kadri – clarkson
    Penner- bolland- McClement
    Orr – gaustad – mclaren

    Regardless our lineup would be a lot bigger and a lot better downlow this way

    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

      I was more thinking of big wingers with Kadri to cycle down low and go to the net in the offensive zone. Kulimen is solid but doesn’t cycle well surprisingly. Penner, Clarkson should give Kadri lots of room to maneuver. Top 9 looks pretty balanced either way though.

      • toronto77 says:

        lol, Penner should not step foot in the top 6 at all. I would put him on the 4th line with McClement, that line would compete with Boston as one of the best 4th lines in the league. Besides, Penners best days are behind him.

        • realistic_leafs_fan says:

          Ok, I could agree to switch Kuli and Penner, but Penner is not a 4th liner and he is only 30, so I think it’s a little early to say his best days are behind him.lol
          His problem is being motivated, always has been his biggest problem. Carlysle was the only one who really motivated him back in Anaheim. Then they lost him to an offer sheet from Edmonton and Penner only seems to step it up in the playoffs since that happened. I was thinking that playing for his old coach in a hockey market like Toronto may spark him again, but maybe 3rd line would be best.

  7. lafleur10 says:

    ARE any of the posters on htr cfl football fans? if so

    who do you think will be in the grey cup game ? and who will win the grey cup?
    what is your favorite team?

    • Gambo says:

      BC Lions are my favorite team. Travis Lulay is an amazing CFL QB. Sucks that Geroy Simon was traded, he was my favorite player for years. As much as I hate to say it, looks like the Roughriders have the best team so far. But I think the Lions will be able to compete for another championship.

      • lafleur10 says:

        gambo you are bang on with the b.c. lions as long as they have roy shivers( the director of player personnel and scout) in cfl history they’ll compete for many grey cups i still wish he was here in saskatchewan he started all this it’s cool to be a riders fan and all the sell outs he made it fun to wear rider stuff unlike beofre when you got laughed at or it was a joke ….roy shivers made it that way and b.c. is reaping his talents now by having lulay ellomimian etc on their team…all of those guys would’ve been here in saskatchewan if he was still here only durant is here from when roy was here!geroy simon i think is done that’s why the lions got rid of him he hasn’t play a game here yet …personally i think he’s overrated and not that good of a reciever lol

    • leafy says:

      I can’t watch a CFL game. I’d rather sit through 2 hours of a Hillary Clinton speech than watch CFL.

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