Leafs are active in their trade talks right now

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  1. leafy says:

    Like Dreger said and like I been saying, Nonis is about to make a big splash. This is going to be huge.

  2. mapleleafsfan says:

    As much as I’ve knocked Franson this season, I just realized he’s first in the league in hits for Dmen. That’s pretty impressive A lot of hits for forwards is a good thing, for our D it’s probably because we spend so much time in our own end haha. Still, solid stat. Clearly not as soft as I thought.

    • leafy says:

      I don’t have a problem with Franson. He’s not Scott Stevens but he’s a big body out there and he uses it.

      With the Leafs D and forwards, it is still puzzling to me why the Leafs constantly play game after game being outshot and out chanced. A complete mystery like Bigfoot. I think the coach sucks, but that’s just me.

      • TmLeafan says:

        It is not the coaches fault. Anytime you have guys hurt and are relying heavily on Mcclement and Trevor Smith there is a good chance you are going to be out-shot especially with the amount of penalties we take.

        Our 4th line has looked a lot better the last few games and provided a lift. Like bringing up guys like D’amigo. I think we should continue doing that and should help us with shot differential too. Rotate the young guys Holland, D’amigo, Ashton, Leivo they are young, eager provide fresh legs as well as keeping veterans on their toes.

        Franson has not been very good this year but I am convinced he has it in him to improve.

        • leafy says:

          True, but the same thing was happening last year too when we were relatively healthy. Only sporadically they’ve been good, but usually it’s an uncoordinated attack or sluggish breakout with everyone out of position.

          • TmLeafan says:

            No doubt it is frustrating to watch I agree. Leafs are a young team though so it is to be expected. They are even younger with all the call ups and hardly any cohesion. They are the 3rd youngest team in the league currently after Buffalo and Columbus who are both total garbage in comparison.

        • reinjosh says:

          I disagree. I think it’s exactly the coaches fault. It’s the type of system he’s getting them to play. They don’t even pressure teams on the half boards, rather they let them move freely in a restricted space.

          What’s absolutely mystifying, is that they have the second highest save percentages in the entire league 5 on 5. Behind only Colorado.

          But the shots translate into almost 0.5 goals per game more at a 5 on 5 pace compared to the Avs. What’s weird though, is that they let less goals in 5 on 5 than the Sharks, an almost identical number to the Blackhawks, 0.05 more goals a game than Anaheim. So in theory, it’s actually working to some degree compared to 3 of the best 5 teams in the League.

          It’s absolutely astounding.

          • mapleleafsfan says:

            As flukey as everyone thinks the leafs are, the shot totals don’t tell the whole picture. I’m fine getting outshot every game, just not 20-50. Most shots we face have no chance of going in, who cares. I’d be interested to see a scoring chances per game stat and see how those match up. Our goalies have been great though, so that helps. When they have an off night, we get smoked.

            Our PK is a huge reason we’ve dropped off so much. We’ve gone from 3rd, to 27th, from ~88% to 77% (obviously meaning we’re playing around a ~66% since the first 16 or w/e). Thats BRUTAL. Bozak and Bolland combined for about 4 minutes of PK time per game when we were winning. With a healthy team, we’re still very comfortably in a playoff spot, I have no doubt about that (I know Lafleur, injuries are no excuse, habs are way deeper blah blah blah).

            The only thing I don’t like is our cycle game, which I really thought Clarkson would help with but he’s just been useless.

            Plus side though, the Eastern conference absolutely sucks. Only Boston would be a playoff team in the west, maybe the Pens. Every other team would get steamrolled.

          • blaze says:

            I don’t see how it’s mystifying. It’s too bad Scrivens is having a great run so far in LA (small sample size). That wast favorite argument last year to those that claimed Reimer was playing over his head and it was unsustainable. Scrivens had really good numbers in his short time here as well.

            Randy’s system pads save % without a doubt. I don’t mind it at all. My issue is in the transition game or lack of. Not enough offensive pressure, the Leafs were fast as hell last year. They still have loads of speed but just can’t seem to get up ice consistantly.

            Honestly we can bitch about the coach all we want but everything Randy tries to instill is about Championship calibre play. Name me a team that recently won a Cup playing run and gun. You can’t.

            All recent Cup winners bought in from the best players to the worst and committed to a hard working 200ft game. Not saying Randy’s perfect because what’s going on now needs tweaking but don’t throw it all out, it did finally bring the Leafs back to respectability.

            • LN91 says:

              So what is your point?

              Toronto plays a run and gun game, and Randy does not have the personnel to play that 200ft. hard working game. What can he do? Nothing really.

              • blaze says:

                Toronto does not play run and gun is that a joke? If they did they’d probably have more than 20 shots a game don’t ya think.

                Who says he doesn’t have the personnel? I ain’t about being physically imposing it’s about playing hard. The vast majority of stars in the NHL are small to average sized guys. It’s about playing hard and determined. Can’t muscle a guy off the puck? That’s fine but you better beat him to the puck.

                • LN91 says:

                  A majority of the Leafs goals comes from the rush, would that not suggest run and gun?

                  I agree with you, it’s about playing hard…But I do not think the Leafs have the types of players that can constantly win battles. Either that, or they’re very lazy out there.

                  There are some players I have seen that can do it. JVR, Kulemin…But some guys like Kessel, Kadri, Lupul, a majority of the D…Even Clarkson, seem to be losin puck battles, softer the boards, etc.

                  • blaze says:

                    How does that suggest they are a run and gun team. They score most of their goals of the rush because JVR and Kessel are scoring most of their goals.

                    The team does not play a run gun by design, trading chances with quick ups from the D. They’ve been pretty oppertunistic and hemmed in way too often. How many 2 on 1s, 3 on 1s and 3 on 2 against do you see? Not very many. Everybody has been coming back and protecting the middle. The problem is breaking out and going the other way.

                  • blaze says:

                    Also wanna touch on Clarkson and Kessel.

                    Have you been watching the same Clarkson that I have? He I already their strongest forward on the puck. JVR may drive it to the net better than any other Leaf but none of them protect the puck like him.

                    He is the only Leaf forward I have seen so far, that can receive a pass from a pressured D at the D zone blue line or hash marks, and lean on his mean and force the puck to the red line for a dump.

                    Weak production so far but has been doing all the little things right. Not sure where the soft on the boards nonsense is coming from. The other night against Dallas Clarkson was the only Leaf forward or D that had success containing Nicushkin in the O-zone.

                    As for Kessel why can’t he fit in that role? He excelled in the playoffs. No Kessel = Boston sweep. You don’t have to be overly physical you just gotta be on your man.

                    A guy can make a bad decision with the puck without any threat of being hit. I mean seeing Clarkson flying at you or Dion sure you’ll dish the puck off in a hurry. But when Kessel comes flying in even just the risk of gettin your pocket picked you rush your play. You can’t let highly skilled teams have all the time they need to make a play.

              • blaze says:

                My point is, if I even have one, the Leafs arnt as bad as it seems. Carlyle has made it work before and the Leafs are more or less playing to what they are, a middle of the pack team.

                If they can correct a few small things, like breaking out cleanly and always having an available outlet this team should stay on the right side of .500

          • TmLeafan says:

            I maintain that Carlyle is a good coach and the guy you want behind the bench for the playoffs. I think a lot of the problems we are having is mental.

            I read an article a while back I think it was from James Mirtle about the Leafs getting outshot and basically we have even shot totals or outshot marginally when the game is tied or we are down a goal. We are absolutely peppered with shots when we have a lead though. We have this mentality that we sit back with a lead I am not sure why. Carlyle doesn’t preach it and has said in interviews it drives him crazy. If you look back to last years playoffs all it took was one good offensive shift from one of our lines and we win that game. I think the problem is amplified now that we are playing centres that do not have a lot of offensive ability. if you are unable to create offensively like Bolland, Bozak and Grabovski could chances are you are pinned in your own zone taking shots. Leafs have the ability to look really good at times when they are attacking we just need to make sure we have that mentality all the time or at least more often.

          • mojo19 says:

            Josh, a couple years ago you were one of the smartest guys on here. Now you sound like a pension plan puppet. Stay off that poison site, you’re turning into a moron.

            It’s “mystifying” that we have a great save % ? How? We clog up the middle and give up a ton of gimme shots from the outside (on top of the fact that we’re getting hemmed in, I’m aware).

            Think about Chris Mason and Dan Ellis in Nashville over the years. Hardly elite goals but Ellis did lead the league in SV% one year and Mason was up there. Goalies who play in a clog the middle system on average teams are obviously going to be prone to put up big numbers. It’s pretty simple, not “absolutely astounding”.

            • reinjosh says:

              It’s astounding that we can have such a high save perecentage total, yet still be a bottom ten team in goals against.

              Definitely did not communicate that properly lol.

  3. Gambo says:

    I’m curious to see how the minutes get distributed for the next 2 games. With Phaneuf gone the next two games the practice lines were:


    Yikes.. It will be interesting to see how they are without Dion at least. Bernier will need to have the game of his career against his former team. The way they have been playing I wasn’t expecting them to win either of the next two games with Dion, so this doesn’t change much.

  4. leafy says:

    When the Leafs make a blockbuster deal, they need to do it sooner than later. Before the break.

  5. LN91 says:

    Does LA have a chance for 60 shots tonight against the Leafs?

    A large, skilled, high possession, great face-offs, and physical team is like the worst thing this team could play.

    Look at what they did to a healthy Montreal team? Reminded them they have ways away to compete with the big boys in the league.

  6. Gambo says:

    Just watched the game and wow the Leafs played great. I definitely wasn’t expecting that. Shoulda won that game, Jones was unreal for LA.

    Curious to hear what people thought about the Gardiner and Rielly pairing, unusual having two offensive guys together, but they seemed pretty good together. Could be a deadly pairing.

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