TSN Reports Ferguson is done today.

TSN is reporting that the Leafs brass had a meeting Monday and there will be an announcement today on who will be the new GM. Here is the Link. I heard a rumor today that it will be Doug MacLean as the new GM. If so, do you think he is the right fit for the Leafs?


34 Responses to TSN Reports Ferguson is done today.

  1. BruMagnus says:

    Oh Thank God! Now we can finally move on to some other news… like what will Sundin or Tanguay command as a rental player, or will Forsberg and Selanne return.

  2. BruMagnus says:

    Yes. MacLean would be a fantastic choice!

    He coached the Panthers and Blue Jackets to failure.
    He then GM'd the only team in the NHL not to reach the playoffs for nearly a decade. I think he would fit right in in Toronto!

  3. 92-93 says:

    yeah i was just about to post the link.

    i think everyone is grateful for this to FINALLY happen and for this stupidity to end. a shame on MLSE for dragging JFJ through the mud not only this past week but this past season and beyond.
    JFJ should be held responsible for HIS decisions, and he will today hopefully. but nobody deserves this kind of treatment.
    according to Berger, if a Fletcher deal does go down 
    a) the bad news is that the board will still be split with Tanenbaum being anti-Fletcher and Peddie being pro-Fletcher … BUT
    b) that it might not matter because Fletcher is asking for full autonomy – re: give us a budget that we'll follow than get the heck out of here and let us do our jobs.
    days of hope in leaf land??? is it too much to ask?
    JFJ might also be installed as head of scouting with the leafs – a role that he is actually very good at or at least has more experience with. i certainly wouldnt mind that.
    again, what Cox and others are forgetting in their criticisms of Fletcher (criticisms that focus on about 5 years of a 40+ year career) is that the CONTEXT has changed from the 1990s when the leafs could buy anyone. 
    they can still outbid every other team in terms of coaching and scouting, but Fletcher certainly knows that a cap exists and i think he has proven during his days as a scout for the habs and GM for the Flames that he can BUILD a team from the ground up.
    also, the nature of the contracts that JFJ has signed (sans Kaberle and Sundin) means that we need someone who can be CREATIVE WITH TRADES so that some of these contracts (not all, SOME) can be disposed of.
  4. BruMagnus says:

    could someone please enlighten me as to what happened viz-a-viz Bowman before the season began? didn't he ask for something similar to full autonomy, and thus was shunned because of it and that the season was about to start and the team decided to go ahead with "what they had" ? I seem to recall reading some canada.com article about it, but I didn't pay that much attention. any help would be appreciated.

  5. 92-93 says:

    that pretty much sums it up.  also, the HNIC website has the scotty bowman interview with Ron MacLean which also illuminates what happened.

    but yeah, Peddie thought "JFJ or Scotty Bowman … a guy i can control or a legend who would demand autonomy? …. hmmmm"
  6. nordiques100 says:

    Peddie was protecting his own self interest. He didnt want bowman to step in and push him to the background. peddie wants to be part of the hockey decisions but i think his bosses now know he cant deliver anything but embarassment to the organization and a few dollars on the side for non-sports investments.

    everyone has an ego there. peddie wanted to be the man to be considered the mastermind of their success and have his name engraved on the cup representing the head honchos at MLSE. if they brought in scotty and he somehow helped the leafs win an inprobable cup over the next few years, it would have been him, not peddie with the cup ring.

    thats really what was holding everything back from this happening back in august. not this "its too close to camp" excuse. i think the shareholders and other board members realized that their reputations are taking a major blow and now need to make something happen.

  7. CanadaIsGold says:

    haha agree.

  8. mitchamac says:

    Thats to bad personally i dont think it was JFJ i think it Paul mariuce and peddie. If you think about it the leafs can win games if they want to,(however they dont want to play for mariuce) and when it comes down to the finnal decision of who is signed comes down to peddie and the rest of the donkies that run the orginization.(yes JFJ is the GM but he has a boss too) Quinn said it before they dont care if a championship comes to toronto or not because there still making more money that any other franchice. but however they just put the blame on JFJ so they dont look bad to the fans. Also Quinn said it before tthat when he tried to bring players in peddie had someone else in mind 

    I think the best thing right now is sell the team to the russian-canadian billionare start from scratch.
    ( and please GOD get rid of that jackass peddie) 

  9. leafy says:

    This is painful, but necessary….like a trip to the dentist.

    I'm not sure about MacLean.  A week ago, on this site, most people said they were NOT in favor of hiring MacLean given his history with the Jackets.  I don't know, I'd like to read what others think.

  10. CanadaIsGold says:

    I dunno where you heard the rumor of MacLean taking over but I pray to god its true, lol.

  11. mojo19 says:

    Yeah, why do they think MacLean would be such a good choice? The one good thing he did was being tough with Zherdev which payed off for the Jackets, other then that, he made some bad signings, and some bad trades, and some bad draft choices…and that's about it.

  12. nordiques100 says:

    i think you have to look at fletcher's recent history as in his work in phoenix. that relates to the current times and environment than any of the other work he did.

    you're right, you cant look at waht he did with the Leafs. those times are vastly different from where we stand now with the cap and so forth. and the fact of the matter is, the ownership then was different than it is today at MLSE.

    and while the cup ring he has with calgary was great, that was a long time ago as well.

    so its his work in phoenix that should be used to judge whether fletcher would be a good choice.

    he had input in recommending that the team bring in the likes of hull, nolan, ricci, scatchard, jovonovski, amonte and wasting alot of money in that regard.

    but at the same time he was part of last year's trade deadline where they got good value for perreault from toronto, got a 1st for nagy, and decent return in the comrie trade. though barnett was the GM, fletcher was definitely instrumental in any of the moves made by the team.

    the draft during his tenure working in phoenix wasnt all taht great. the team struggled to find hidden gems outside the 1st round. perhaps in toronto with a steady farm team that isnt shared, that will help in player development.

    He did a good job as well getting decent return for Tkachuk, Khabibulin and getting keith ballard in the chris gratton trade. but did move briere to get gratton in the first place which was a mistake. like all GMs he made some mistakes.

    his biggest job isnt the trade deadline. it will be who he hires as the next GM. if he can lure a top guy to the organization and really build a solid red wing like front office, then that will judge whether he was the best choice. if he goes out and tries to keep his own poewr (assume he gets some), then  we're just going in circles yet again.

    the only concern is that tanenbaum isnt on board with this move. you can clearly see that backstabbing and lies can only come of this when peddie him are polar opposites. more than anything i think they need to be in agreement.

    it will be interesting to see. everything could be moot if its mclean or someone else…….who the heck knows what goes on at MLSE.

  13. leafy says:

    Very informative.  You hit the nail on the head when you say we need someone who's creative, ie, who's able to see further down the road in time, not just the present, and can make deals with the proper vision.  Unfortunately, JFJ never had that.

  14. BruMagnus says:

    goddamn it must suck to have a guy like Peddie in charge of stuff then! so much more makes sense to me now about the Leafs.

  15. leafy says:

    I definitely agree wih one thing….Peddie needs to be sacked pronto.

  16. BruMagnus says:

    I second that.

    [see above statement]

  17. BruMagnus says:

    see the 2nd post on this thread.

  18. sakukoivumc11 says:

    I hate the Leafs but regardless JFJ should not have gone through this mess.  Toronto is a classy organization but this is a joke.  The Board has failed the team and its fans.  The owners love the Board as they make money regardless of the product.  JFJ  is a smart hockey man and will be back somewhere in the NHL in the future.  He needed help and nothing was given.  With time and help plus an assistant G.M. job he will flourish and be  a great hockey mind in the future.

  19. leafy says:

    I know, it’s not exactly flattering. I’m holding my breath that it’s Neil Smith, or Fletcher as an imterim.

  20. morrissey says:

    Good luck to Fletcher or whomever gets the job, that is one serious mess to clean up – some of those guys that need to go are going to be pretty tough to deal. McCabe, Raycroft, Kubina, Blake… ouch. They'll have to look for Theodore-Aebischer type deals and not expect too much of a return. This is gonna be a loooooong rebuilding process.

  21. morrissey says:

    Here here, i'm all for it too, love seeing the Leafs in the toilet, warms my heart through the long Canadian winter 🙂

  22. 92-93 says:

    the deadline is absolutely CRUCIAL in terms of an opportunity.

    BUT, you are right, its who he hires as GM and the personnel that is brought in underneath him. THAT is the key … along with, of course, the ENVIRONMENT that surrounds him – re: autonomy.
  23. BruMagnus says:



  24. BruMagnus says:

    LOL, that was pretty original!

  25. jarcpitre says:

    Well thank god its not him then, they are now saying Cliff Fletcher, but I believe he will only finish out the year. Things should be interesting leading up to the trade deadline, the rumors will be flying high now.

  26. jarcpitre says:

    I'm not so sure that Fletcher will go beyond this year, I think you will see the Leafs go after a much larger name in the off season. Things will definetly be interesting leading up to the trade deadline. Funny thing with this situation is that Peddie stated that everything will still go through him.

  27. jarcpitre says:

    I only entered the top portion of the rumor this morning. The other part was added by the editor of this site, so take the knot out of your shorts.

  28. jarcpitre says:

    I agree, MacLean isn't my choice of favorites. I belive that Fletcher will just take over to start the rebuilding and a new GM will be hired in the off season. Things should get pretty interesting up to the trade deadline.

  29. mitchamac says:

    Id like to see john Muckler hes the one that build the sens wouldnt that be a kick in the sac,  muckler comes to toronto and wins a cup before ottawa does hahahah prob never happen but it would be funny as hell

  30. jarcpitre says:

    Comment before the press conference, but was right in that Fletcher is only there for the time being. Not sure who will be the man next year now. Burke has no interest, but them saying Ken holland or Jim Rutherford seems interesting, especially the later would rejoin with Maurice.

  31. rojoke says:

    Al Strachan was on The Score suggesting that for Holland and Rutherford, the Leafs GM post would be a "dream job".  While I agree that it does carry an amount of prestige, if you look at the environment there today, I'd hardly call it a "dream job", especially for Holland.  Going from Detroit to Toronto would be a step down, I think.  And I don't see Rutherford leaving Peter Karmanos and Carolina, as they have a pretty long history working together to develop one of the premiere hockey development programs in the US.  I think come draft day, you'll see either Neil Smith or Colin Campbell at the helm.

    Strachan mentioned a whole bunch of names, some pretty laughable (Lou Lamoriello, Bob Goodenow????), some puzzling (Bob Nicholson, Dave Branch).  But that's what we've all come to expect from Strach, I guess.

  32. rojoke says:

    Isn't MacLean still involved with the group trying to buy the Lightning?

  33. BruMagnus says:

    I'm not angry at you! Your article was good. It's the fact that they both posting a note, but then just create a whole new article on the SAME thing for NOTHING that bothers me. It pushes off other articles off the main page (none of which are mine, so one cannot accuse me of being self-interested or biased) and has left this one bereft of comments, as evidenced by the 100+ posts on the other one and nothing on here since the other one was created.

    Just poor administration on this site all in all.

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