Turco to Philly?

Tough times a-head for Marty Turco? NEWARK, N.J. – Before a flake of snow could ac*****ulate on the ground in Philadelphia on Tuesday night, the internet was brimming with a flurry of Flyers rumors.

Surprisingly, it wasn’t about Ray Emery and his injury concerns.

Rather, it was about another goaltender: the Dallas Stars’ Marty Turco, who quickly became a trending topic on Twitter.

Turco officially became expendable by the Stars on Tuesday when they acquired Kari Lehtonen from Atlanta for defenseman Ivan Vishnevskiy and a 4th round pick. The deal was finalized late Tuesday night.

Turco’s name, though, has been connected with the Flyers in the rumor mill for weeks.

Rogers Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos was the first to report on Tuesday that the Flyers are at the top of the list for Turco, helping fuel the frenzy.

That potential move could be interesting, given Ray Emery’s current health situation and Michael Leighton’s experience in the NHL playoffs – coupled with the fact that Turco will be an unrestricted free agent come July 1.

But here’s why Turco coming to Philadelphia is more than a long shot:

1. Salary – Turco’s cap hit is $5.7 million. That means the Flyers would need to sacrifice about $5.2 million in salary in a trade with the Stars just to fit him under the cap this season.

To recap, the Flyers’ list of no-trade or no-movement clauses: Simon Gagne, Danny Briere and Kimmo Timonen.

2. Playoff history: Is Marty Turco the goaltender that the Flyers think will put them over the top? Turco holds a bunch of Stars records (wins, shutouts, games played) and a modern NHL record (1.72 GAA in a season, 2002-03) but his success has never converted to the playoffs. Since Turco became Dallas’ full-time starter in 2002-03, the Stars have gone to the playoffs every year but one. Those trips have included four first round exits and one trip the Western Conference Semifinals.

The Flyers went that far with Marty Biron in 2007-08. He walked as a free agent last July.

3. The short-term: Do the Flyers want to sacrifice a potential impact player for their playoff run in order to acquire Turco, who wouldn’t be guaranteed to be Flyers’ property come 2010-11?

That’s the same dilemma this franchise faced when weighing Ilya Kovalchuk.

4. The long-term: If the Flyers do acquire Turco, is he definitely the Flyers’ long-term solution? A change in scenery may do Turco some good. While his stats have never been horrible, this season hasn’t been his best in Dallas.


27 Responses to Turco to Philly?

  1. dumbassdoorman says:

    With Emery's health questions and Leightons lack of play off exp……Turco might be the solution? They could cetainly do worse thats for sure. And it isn't like Dallas has to absorb all the salary coming back. The flyers could waive a player, make a Red Wings style trade, or other options like a three teamer….who knows?

  2. hockey_lover says:

    Turco hasnt proved anything in the playoffs. So, he should go to play in San Jose. He'll fit right in.

  3. dumbassdoorman says:

    True but Philly could do worse than him

  4. hockey_lover says:

    Sure. They already have worse with Emery 🙂

    I still dont think Turco is the guy to carry a team over the top. Especially now at 34. He isnt getting any younger.

  5. dumbassdoorman says:

    Agreed but unfortunately for them there don't appear to be any better options….lol…not that i care my team has it's own problems

  6. reinjosh says:

    im betting they go after Harding maybe using Leino

  7. hockey_lover says:

    lol fair enough.

    Although, Id have to disagree with you, depending on what you were referring to.

    While the Leafs to have their problems, I think goaltending is the least of them at this point.

  8. dumbassdoorman says:

    LOL…no goaltending is not our problem…i was refering more do what to do with UFAs and Kabby, maybe learning how to not blow a lead and a little scoring. It will come I am sure of this. I am extremely happy with how they are really playing hard and most inportantly like a TEAm, ya know? I find it odd they have not given someone Komi's "A" seeing how long he has been out. I think Phaneuf will have it soon enough, maybe Schenn too depending on Kabs. Can't wait til deadline time it should be a friggen Holiday I swear…lol.

  9. bbruins37 says:

    turco has always been labelled as a guy who sucks in the playoffs, but i don't really see it that way. i think he's completely tossed that aside in his last two trips to the post-season.

    i still think his performance in the first round loss against the canucks a few years ago was the best performance by a goaltender in a series that i've ever seen. the stars could only win when he got a shutout.

    he backed up that effort the next year with a very good postseason only to lose to the cup champs in the conference finals.

  10. bbruins37 says:

    what's the record winning streak in the nhl? 17 by PIT? i think the longest undefeated streak was over 30 games by the flyers but i could be completely wrong on that one. either way, the winning streak record is definitely in jeopardy with the caps playing the canadiens, sens, and blues before the break, and then the sabres after the break.

    some crazy stats on the caps offense:

    – 11 5+ goal games in the last 17
    – 16 4+ goal games in their last 18
    – 3+ goals in 18 straight games

    only 4 other teams in the league average over 3 goals a game. this team team is running on all cylinders and i don't see them being stopped anytime soon.

  11. dumbassdoorman says:

    they have a scarey team and i think they are gonna make a trade to become even better. I still say last year they should've traded for Pronger…they would have been unstopable. They could actually use Turco come to think of it

  12. mojo19 says:

    Turco's play has kind of slipped lately but he is one of the best playoff goalies I've ever seen. His series in 2007 vs the Canucks is the BEST goaltending series of all time.
    – Turco went an incredible 7 games
    -posting a 1.30 GAA and
    -.952 SV%, the best numbers of any losing goalie in a series ever.
    -He allowed only 11 goals in 7 games
    -all three of his wins were by shutout

    He carried that team on his back, but they just couldn't generate any offense. The following year in 2008 marching the Stars to the Western final, and after being down 3-0 to the powerful Red Wings, Turco put on an absolute clinic and stole back to back games to force a game 6. Of course the Wings won and eventually won the cup, they were just so stacked and way too good. But Turco was incredible.

    If he could even get close to that level with Philly they are a dark horse and could knock off some favourites like Washington, Pittsburgh, or New Jersey.

  13. reinjosh says:

    Yeah 17 wins by Pittsburgh and 35 games unbeaten by the Flyers. Also the same season that they had 7 players with 100 or more PM's back in the Broad Street Bully days.

  14. jlbhawks says:

    Let’s face it nothing will help the flyers, they will make a move then will get knocked off in the playoffs by pittsburgh, its bound to happen

  15. reinjosh says:

    funny eh how some players just get these labels in the playoffs or season that just defines them and they cannot seem to shake and yet they perform completely opposite of what the label is.

  16. reinjosh says:

    Penguins fan? haha
    If the Flyers can get their shit together they could be really dangerous.
    Carter, Richards, Giroux, Gagne, Briere, JVR, Hartnell, Pronger, Timonen, Carle, Coburn, Parent. Thats a lot of talent. Too bad they either get injured or can't seem to hit their potential.  If they add a goalie that could steal a couple games here or there they would be set.

  17. dumbassdoorman says:

    I think if Philly gets a goalie, like say Turco it will help…but their biggest playoff asset will be and some will laugh is Pronger. He is a warrior and could really change a series especially since he is a prick to play against.

  18. reinjosh says:

    Oh yeah man. Pronger is a beast. He just makes the players around him better when in the playoffs.
    I say that he really motivates the young guys provided they get into the playoffs. The semi-darkhorse team.

  19. bbruins37 says:

    without a doubt the best goaltending showdown ever. both turco and luongo put up over .950 save percentages. one of the best series ever even though there was only 23 goals scored in total on both goalies in 7 games

  20. bbruins37 says:

    well actually about 8.5 games if you include all of the overtime play. luongo got welcomed in his first playoff game by being peppered with 76 shots

  21. bbruins37 says:

    anyone notice that the women who play hockey are getting better looking? i remember before they would be the ugliest women ever (not meant to be offensive; just personal taste), but looking at the canadian team, they have a few that aren't bad looking at all now: meghan agosta, tessa bonhomme, etc.

    probably shouldnt only be concerned with what they look like but…meh lol

  22. Bure96 says:

    I've never seen a better performance by a goaltender ever then Turco's performance against Vancouver in 2007. Seriously, just an incredible series. How do you get 3 shutouts in one series and still lose? Luongo was equally as good, but he gets some credit for how good he is.

    Marty Turco is older now, but he can carry a team in the playoffs.

  23. mojo19 says:

    Those OT's were epic. It was just to a point where Luongo and Turco were stopping every kind of shot, tip, deflection, rebound, making poke checks, etc. It was incredible.

    I just find it funny that a guy up above (who may or may not understand simple math) said that Turco has never done anything in the playoffs. If winning a cup is the only way to define a good goalie then there are only a short list of gys who have "done something" in the playoffs.

  24. mojo19 says:

    Completely agree. (see my comment above)

  25. dumbassdoorman says:

    No it is a valid point we are talking about half of olympic hockey here and some of them make it was easier to watch lol. I miss Cassie Campbell and Cammie Granato

  26. cam7777 says:

    Meghan Agosta isn't bad at all.  She kind of reminds me of Deb, from Dexter, if anyone watches it – but less crazy lookiing

  27. reinjosh says:

    wow that is a weird comparison
    i totally never saw that

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