Why a trade with COLORADO would make perfect sense!
Why trade with detroit for NO REASON, when you can trade with colorado.
First if Toronto would trade with colorado the trade should go like this.
TO COLORADO: 3rd round pick, Brendan Bell, Staffan Kronwall, or aleksander suglobov, which ever one works., and Green
TO TORONTO: Marek Svatos
And now i will explain why this would be an EXCELLENT trade, with lines:
Wellwood-Sundin-Tucker
Steen-Stajan-Svatos
Ponikarovsky-Peca-Antropov
Battaglia-O’neill-Pohl
Extra: Kilger(maurice will find a place for him)
Kaberle-Kubina
McCabe-Colaiacovo
White-Gill
Belak
Raycroft
Aubin
Who agrees with me?
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I like how your explanation is actually no explanation…. Colorado won't accept this trade, and really… who wants Green? As for the line combination, it looks the same, except you took out kilger, and stuck in Svatos…. wow big difference…
congratulations, you deserve the nobel prize for this amazing trade explanation.
Milan hejduk is who we need i am already thinking on what # he would wear ! 32 i guess cause poni has 23 ………..ok ok i may be getting ahead of myself but this is way more realistic trade
to Colorado
Bell/kronwall/woz/harrison = whitch ever one works
2 rd draft pick or even a 1st rounder heck
to Toronto
MILAN HEJDUK = goals = Playoffs
why would the leafs trade almost all of their defenceive deapth…… i wouldnt count on all four of them going. i predict Bell, steen for svatos.
i would do that. i would even trade steen straight up for svatos.
not that im a steen hater, i just think svatos is better and worth it. a change for both players
Hejduk would make much better sence. Recently Steen and Oneill have been playing great, Stajan has been alright but he is not a great offensive force, Hejduk would fit onto that line better then Svatos (who like Nagy, will continue not to put pucks into the net even with a change in teams).
Its been a change in eras in Colorado, Svatos Wolski Stasny and Budaj are the future there. Hejduk leaving will give more ice to those 3 players which is only a plus to the Avs.
And since everyone is making lines these days.
Ponikarovsky-Sundin-Antropov
Steen-Oneill-Hejduk
Tucker-Pohl-Wellwood
Battaglia-Peca-Kilger
I didnt include stajan because I believe to get Hejduk, they will want a good roster player like Stajan and maybe a second. But well worth giving up.
-wdf
i have two theories on the'genius':
1) he clearly is a guy/gal who doesnt have their head on straight. Here's a person who has posted 3 articles here at HTR and NO comments, not even in response to his/her article. the suggetions he/she have made are shallow, thoughtless, even if they were oriented in the right direction (i.e. 'fire JFJ'). The last article about how much Toronto sucks at the draft is just downright wrong on so many levels. and now this.
2) thegenius is doing his/her thesis on hockey chat room discussions and HTR is one of their guinea pig sites. So this person purposely posts dumb articles in order to see and study and interpret the reactions from the HTR members. maybe its a discourse analysis or something. maybe its a thesis on 'expert' culture or something?
in any case, its sad if its #1 and puzzling if its #2.
Stajan and Bell for Svatos
Kronwall, Suglobov, and 3rd pick for Guerin
Before Tucker and Wellwood return…
Guerin——Sundin——Poni
Svatos——Steen——-Oneil
Antropov—-Pohl——–Kilger
Bates——-Green——-Deveroux
After Tucker and Wellwood return…
Guerin——-Sundin——Poni
Steen——–Wellwood—Svatos
Tucker——-Antropov—-Oniel
Kilger——–Pohl———Bates/Deveroux
we know the defenece
we know the goalie
and if they made the playoffs…
Guerin——Sundin—–Oniel
Steen——–Wellwood-Svatos
Tucker——-Peca——Kilger
Antropov—–Pohl——Poni
what a dream I just dreamt….lol
We picked Green up on Waivers, if Colorado wanted they would have picked him up. ALthough, I have heard rumors that say we may trade for Svatos, I don't this is the trade. Your lines are a bit bad! Don't quit your day job!
Colorado wont accept that trade. Alot of you guys dont understand…..If you want to get a skilled player you have a give up something more then minor players! A more realistic trade would be something like this.
To Toronto: Marek Svatos
To Colorado: Darcy Tucker, Brendan Bell, 3rd Round Draft Pick
On Hockeyleaks they said Toronto is in talks with Colorado about Svatos and Hejduk so I think a trade like this could happen.
To Toronto: Marek Svatos, Milan Hejduk
To Colorado: Darcy Tucker, Brendan Bell, Ian White, 3rd Round Draft Pick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Another trade we could do since Aubin isnt happy that he isnt playing more games and there was a rumour JFJ was trying to trade ethier McCabe or Kubina would be.
To Toronto: John-Michael Liles, Jose Theodre
To Colorado: Pavel Kubina, Jean-Sebastien Aubin, Chad Kilger
Then our lines could be like this…
Hejduk Sundin Svatos
Ponikarovsky Wellwood Antropov
Steen Stajan O'Neill
Battaglia Peca Pohl
McCabe Kaberle
Liles Colaiacovo
Wozniewski Gill
Raycroft
Theodore
At least you are trying to put some thought into your suggestions… looking for players a team might want to move, matching salaries etc.
I would not trade Kubina for Theodore. The fact is Kubina might fetch you something useful if you took some bad salary back… but Theodore is taking back too much of a bad salary. He is maybe the most untradeable player in the league.
How about this,
Kubina to St. Luois for McKee(gives thm a guy to play with Brewer, us a better defensive forward)
Tucker to Calgary for Boyd and a 4th round pick
Offseason:
Trade Kronwall, Harrison, Bell to Colorado for Budaj
Sign Antropov to a 4 year extension worth 6 mil, Poni 4 years worth 8 mil.
Extension for Stajan:
next season- 950K
09- 1 mil
10- 2 mil
11- 2 mil
12- 3 mil
13- 3 mil
cap hit 2 mil over 6 seasons
Extension for Steen:
next season- 870K
09- 1.5 mil
10- 2.5 mil
11- 2.5 mil
12- 3.5 mil
13- 4 mil
cap hit 2.5 mil over 6 seasons
Extension for Wellwood:
next season- 950K
09- 2 mil
10- 3 mil
11- 3 mil
12- 4 mil
13- 5 mil
cap hit 3 mil over 6 seasons
This increases these players cap hits this season, and lowers them long term.
This means th Leafs have 36.225 mil tied up in 16 players(roster holds 23).
RESIGN:
White-long term1.5 mil
Colaiacovo- long term 1.5
Battaglia- 2yrs 1 mil per
Devereax- 2 yrs 1 mil per
Peca- 1 yr 2 mil
SIGN- Carter 1 yr 2.25 mil
Antropov-Sundin-Poni
Steen-Stajan-Wellwood
Kilger-Peca-Carter
Battaglia-Pohl-Devereaux
Ondrus-Williams
McCabe-Kaberle
Gill-White
Colaiacovo-Woziewski
Belak
Raycroft
Budaj
Cap hit 46 mil
Short term, Defense and goal stay the same, lose O'neill and Tucker, and Gain Carter.
Short term, the team loses out. However, Long term, when Stajan, Steen, and Wellwood setle as quality players, they wll be less exensive.
Lose two 20 goal scorers already and replace him with a guy whos struggled all year?
And Budaj is Colorados goalie of the future, they will want a pretty penny for him maybe Pogge for Budaj straight up.
-wdf
Think of it this way… Kubina for Liles and Aubin and Kilger for Theodore.
The Avalanche woud never accept that. Here is what I would do though.
To Colorado:
Matt Stajan
Ian White
Brendan Bell
Jeremy Williams
2nd round pick
4th round pick
To Toronto:
Milan Hejduk
Marek Svatos
To Vancouver:
Jeff O'neill
To Toronto:
1st round pick
And yes I do think O'neill would land a 1st round pick, considering how much Tkachuk went for, because they both have the same amount of goals and points.
Ponikarovsky – Sundin – Hejduk
Steen – Wellwood – Svatos
Tucker – Peca – Kilger
Battaglia – Pohl – Devereux
Kaberle – Kubina
McCabe – Colaiacovo
Gill – Kronwall
Raycroft
Aubin
as crazy as these rumors are, I keep hearing that the Leafs are talking to the avs about Hejduk and Svatos. the only consistent name i've seen imn stajan, but bell, steen, tucker, o'neil, and even sundin has poppped up in these rumors. the avs would be dumb to pull a deal like this., so i dont think it will go through
If the Leafs want to make the playoffs they better start wheeling and dealing. While Svatos would be a nice addition, Hejduk would be even nicer. And we have enough youthful talent to send the other way in either case. If the Leafs lose to the Canadiens on Monday night then panic is sure to set in. JFJ can't afford to be idle. And any manager is kidding themselves this year if they think that there will be any trade deadline bargains. The price just keeps rising in this sellers market.
Theodore is the most untradeable commodity in this league! Most nights he can't even stop a beach ball!!!
You leaf fans are ridiculous with these trade dreams, who in is right mind would want all the crappy players you are mentioning c'mon
you could probably write a thesis of your own on hockey chat rooms. If you do send me a copy.
Kronvall, Sugurbob and a first rounder not a third for Guerin.
Yeah that looks pretty good, and if the cap continues to rise I like what you've done with Wellwood, Steen, and Stajan. However, I don't know if Stajan will be worth all of that. And my guess would be that the Colaiacovo camp would want a short term deal, probably 2 years at around 1.5 per year, with hopes of getting a big raise to 3 or 4 mil in a couple of years.
Where is everyone hearing these rumors, someone please give me a link