Why would the Habs want Aucoin?

One had to wonder where this rumor came from and why someone would think it makes sense. But if you go to the TSN website and look at their trade deadline rumor list there it is the first player listed. I for one can’t see why Montreal would want to aquire Aucoin, because if they want to pay that kind of money to a D man wouldn’t you think they would just give that money to Souray or Markov. I am interested in hearing if anybody has logical reasoning why Montreal would make any kind of move to get Aucoin.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=10913&hubname=

”A recent rumour had him possibly going to Montreal for Craig Rivet and Sergei Samsonov.”


36 Responses to Why would the Habs want Aucoin?

  1. habs111 says:

    A reason why the Habs would want to get aucoin is because they have 4 unristricted freeagent defensmen coming up next year. aucoin still ahs 2 years on hios contract. giving rivet for him would reduce the number of ree agent dman to 3 and niinima will prbably be let go so that leaves us with 2 – souray and markov. at least by getting aucoin you are guarenteed having 1 guy to stay long term. its all about the security of not loosing all and being left with nothing

    and ofcourse they get to get rid of the garbage that has become samsanov

  2. flyer_fly says:

    And maybe they think that in better surroundings and on a better team he'll proform like he did in NY

  3. LEAFSLEAFSLEAFS1967 says:

    Why not? He's an upgrade over Rivet I think they would need to send a 2nd or 3rd rounder to get Samsonov, I don't know why a team would want him his work ethic is terrible. As for the Souray and Markov remarks they are mainly offensive guys. Aucoin would add a bit more toughness and defensive style and work ethic to this small, lazy Montreal team.

  4. curryjg44 says:

    Umm…think about it.  The habs need to take some of the pressure off Souray's big shot.  Aucoin's shot is just as hard.  If they put Aucoin on the point alongside Souray on the pp, then you could have shots coming from both sides of the point.  Just because he hasn't played well so far this season, doesn't mean he wouldn't fit into Montreal's style of play.

  5. Lint07 says:

    2 years ago, when he was a UFA I was praying that Aucoin would be the top priority for the Habs. Now he's been slowed by injuries, but I'd still take him on my team anyways.

    However I'm not sure I would be ready to trade Rivet as I wouldn't want to upset the team chemistry too much going into the playofss (As many knows, Rivet is a great leader and has lots to say in the dressing room… he is also great buddy with captain Koivu)

    What I would try to work out with Chicago would be something like this:

    To Montreal
    Adrian Aucoin-D (4M$)
    Martin Lapointe-RW (2,4M$)

    To Chicago
    Sergei Samsonov-LW (3,5M$)
    Janne Niinimaa-D (2,5M$)
    Alexander Perezhogin-RW (625k$)

    Chicago would get rid of two big salaries they do not really want anymore and they'd get their talented winger (Samsonov) to play alongside Havlat and a promising Perezhogin to help them rebuild. They would have to accapt to take Niinimaa's salary off our hands, though.

    On the other hand, Montreal would acquire a veteran D in Aucoin who's capable of notching 30+ minutes a game if needed to and can help the PP out when Souray's not on the ice. As for Lapointe, he could be used as a third-liner and/or on the 2nd line, PK and PP if needed to. It also helps that Lapointe is a Quebec native and is a hard working player, which could be very useful once the playoffs start.

    All in all, I think this trade could do good for both teams.

  6. robinson19 says:

    Add up the average sizes of the teams. Montreal is not small, you're still in the mid-nineties. The star forwards are definitely lazy though, I'll give you that.

    Aucoin is offensively worse than Souray, defensively worse than Rivet and Komisarek, and way less agressive and tough than Komisarek and Boullion. He is an upgrade over Niinimaa, that's it.

  7. robinson19 says:

    Aucoin sucks. The Habs want a star center, and they have the large pool of prospects to do it. End of story.

  8. modk09 says:

    FYI, watch a game or 2, Markov is a setup man on offence and defensively hes the best on the Hans. Ovechkin himself named Markov the toughest dman in the league 1 on 1

  9. LEAFSLEAFSLEAFS1967 says:

    Aucoin does not suck, he is still a good dman but has been slowed by injuries post lockout. Montreal doesn't need a STAR center, they have that in Koivu. They want a good 2nd line center who can get 2 lazy wingers in Samsonov and Kovalev inspired to play.

  10. jocool_88 says:

    you got to be kidding me, samsonov is not lazy, far from it.  He may be having a bad year but he can still control the puck and beat pretty much any player in the league.  Honestly there are only a few players on the team that come back when there is a turn over and one of them is Sammy. 

  11. LEAFSLEAFSLEAFS1967 says:

    Yes he is very talented and has amazing hands, but he is uninspired and does not work hard at all.

  12. neilios says:

    The rumor I heard was Aucoin and Smolinski for Samsenov and Rivet.Other Habs rumor coming from the Hockey Central panel is that the Lightning are trying to unload Richards contract and they are asking from the Habs Souray,Bonk,Abby,Halek,and 1st rounder for Richards and Janic.If you read between the lines I guess that Aucoin is suppose to fill in for Souray,and Richards would be the #1 centerman that the Habs need so bad.

    Anyone here any Canuck rumors???Besides Stuart and Sturm coming to Van.

  13. wingerxxx says:

    Unless your team is absolutely desperate for defense, I can't see why anyone would want Aucoin right now.  He is NOT the same player he was with the Islanders.  A lot of that has to do with injuries, sure.  He has had rotten luck with them.  Defensively, he's not really an upgrade over Rivet.  If he is going to pick his career up, he should probably go back to the Isles, and a familiar environment.  I would take either Souray or Markov over Aucoin right now, any day of the week.  And he is not getting any younger. 

  14. mkultra says:

    you got to be kidding…Koivu is a great 2nd center not a start 1st center

    the habs badly needs a 1st center…even if he's gonna play on the second line to not hurt saku's feelings

  15. mkultra says:

    you can't trade for a 4m$ guy because he's got a good slapshot

  16. habswinthecup-again says:

     Take Halek and the 1st rounder out of that deal and then maybe that trade could happen, not the way you have it tho.

  17. mkultra says:

    if the habs make a deal for aucoin they haven't learn anything from the  ninima, kovalex, samsonov moves.

    All their current d-man are superior or cheaper than aucoin

  18. lynchmob540 says:

    Isn't Aucoin French (or at least have French heritage?)? I think that's why the Habs would want this stiff!

    While on the topic of the Habs, i think Guy Carbonneau should be labelled with a nickname….how about CRYBABY Carbo?? Or how about WHHHHINOBO??

  19. ThomasHawks says:

    Latendresse-Richards-Kovalev
    Higgins-Koivu-Ryder
    Plekanek-Smolinski-Johnson
    Perezhogin-Lapierre-Begin

    Markov-Komisarek
    Aucoin-Streit
    Dandenault-Bouillon

    Huet
    Danis

    Good team but Halak,1st rounder,Abby,Bonk,Souray is way too much for Richards and …

  20. blarneylad says:

    man, u know the penalties souray got were not right, shut up

  21. lynchmob540 says:

    Rrrrriiiiiggghhhhtttt!!!

    Now take off your bleu, blanc et rouge sunglasses and watch the game the way its meant to be watched!

  22. habsfan67 says:

     I like your idea but I just cant imagine anyone wanting ninnima or samsonov

  23. habsfan67 says:

     Intelligent comments only please!

  24. habsfan67 says:

    I would sign Souray over Markov any day I know a lot of people might think thats crazy but I honestly think hes more important to a team than Markov is.

  25. bigscoup says:

    Forget Aucoin I belive the habs need SEAN AVERY. this tean has lacked his style of play for way too long…Sure he takes bad penalties but the guy plays with heart, the same way CLAUDE LEMIEUX did.We also need a hard nosed center  BRYAN SMOLINSKI fits the bill just fine. Now to the D….. oh we donnt have any lol  SOURAY has got to go RIVET is not far behind…….But then again what do i  no

  26. Lint07 says:

    it's been reported that the Hawks want Samsonov

  27. modk09 says:

    would you also take McCabe over Kaberle? because Markov is a MUCH better player than Kaberle is and Souray and McCabe is about even, but no one would rather have mcCabe over Kaberle.

    The thing with Markov is that unless youre a defenceman yourself, you dont understand that he basically makes no mistakes. his positioning is almost perfect no matter where he is on the ice and his 1-on-1 work is impecable. That being said, I really hope they find a way to get both under the cap, especially if it means trading samsonov and/or kovalev

  28. modk09 says:

    clearly you "no" nothing because there isnt an intelligent statement in your whole post

  29. puffpenguin54 says:

    koivu deserved it

  30. Habs_to_the_top says:

    They may not be all that small.  But besides a couple guys, they play small.  Bunch of pussies wearing panties.  It gets frustrating watching them play.  No heart.  No desire.  Despicable. 

  31. LEAFSLEAFSLEAFS1967 says:

    Markov BETTER than Kabby? I don't think so, I'd say about even. No disrespect to Markov he's a great defenseman but no better than Kaberle. Kaberle brings more to the table offensively, he's one of the best passers in the game. He's come a long way from his early all offense ways too. He is one of the most complete players on this leaf team and his panic threshold is probably the best in the league. That being said I don't think he is as defensive as Markov which I would say evens it out but theyre both amazing. But you make a good point anyway.

  32. bigscoup says:

    Wat i do no MODK09 is that the habs are SOFT they need GRIT….And i like the way avery plays, he has more points then higgins,samsonov and pletanic.,while playing for a crap team…..When was the last time you saw any of those three HIT SOME1. And our d  sucks…..Do u think the habs should pay 6 million to keep him YOUR NUTS……what good is a 6million$ slap shot when at any given time the other team can walk around him.Id take a well rounded d man over him any day…ship him  out now while hes worth something……So i think i no more then u give me credit for

  33. hockey_expert1 says:

    Here's why getting Aucoin would be a good risk to take:

    Hab's lineup next season without Aucoin and our players resigned:

    Higgins-Koivu – Ryder
    Latendresse – Plekanec – Kovalev
    Samsonov – Bonk – Johnson
    Perezhogin/Murray – Lapierre/Begin – Striet/Downey

    Markov – Souray – Boullion, Komisarek, Rivet, Dandenault

    Huet
    Halak/Danis

    Cap Space: Zero

    Habs lineup without Samsonov, with Aucoin and without Souray:

    Higgins – Koivu – Ryder
    Latendresse – Plekanec – Kovalev
    Perezhogin – Bonk – Johnson
    Murray – Lapierre/Begin – Striet/Downey

    Markov – Aucoin – Boullion, Komisarek, Rivet, Dandenault

    Huet
    Halak/Danis

    Cap Space: $3-6 million

    This decreases the team's production from the blueline but gives Gainey some cap room to sign a top line forward (also keep in mind that Kostitsyn could crack the lineup next year). This way, the team's offensive production is a lot more balanced. The risk is that Gainey may not get the player he wants and the roster ends up worse than this year's.

  34. hockey_expert1 says:

    They have plenty of grit on their 3rd/4th lines and on defense. They need a big body on the top two lines and Avery is not only a top liner, but a garbage player. The team doesn't need him, especially Montreal after the French comment by Avery.

  35. hockey_expert1 says:

    Avery is not only *not* a top line player…

  36. LEAFSLEAFSLEAFS1967 says:

    Believe me I'm far from being a habs fan, but I think that Koivu has proven that he can be their number one guy and has earned his spot in Montreal. To bring a guy up from lower spot or a prospect who plays better to take over is one thing, but to go out and shop for a new number one center is a spit in the face to the captain, the team's LEADER and major factor off the ice and usually on the ice.

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