Comments on: Agent: No talks with Caps about Theodore

By: HABSRULEFOREVER

HABSRULEFOREVER — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:11:18 +0000

How can you say Maple Leafs are in a "better situation" than the Habs.. Toronto was the second worst team in the league last year!!!! besides Kessel NOONE on the Maple Leafs can score 20 goals!!!! and the only half decent propect they have is Kadri.. MTL has two good young goalies, PK Subban, Cammalleri(who led the NHL in scoring in the playoffs.. and don't say he sucks because Burke was trying to sign him, but he choose MTL), In the Hockey New's Future Watch 2010, the Habs have 3 top 40 propects, they also have guys like Gionta, Gomez, Plekanec, and Kostisyn.. while I don't claim they are top players in the league they are alot better than the Leafs forwards…If the leafs still had Rask, and the draft picks from the Kessel trade maybe.. The leafs could've gotten Kessel for ALOT cheaper.. theres a good reason Boston didn't want him… hes a cancer to a team and VERY one demisional player..MTL will make the playoffs next year, wheres as Toronto will be one of the worst teams in the league.. the Leafs forward group is probably the worst in the league, the defense are all bums noone wanted( besides Schenn/phaneuf) the only decent propect they have is Kadri…. unless Toront gets a first line center to play with Kessel, he'll be lucky to score 25 goals next year..they also have NO FIRST round picks for two years!!!! Toronto should learn from Chicag, Pitt, LA… and not trade those top 3 picks….

By: DannyLeafs

DannyLeafs — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:14:10 +0000

Gomez can be a good player, but on that team, he is pretty ineffective. He was absolutely terrible it the playoffs. He had some assists, but not because he was making good plays. He turned the puck over a lot, and was completely invisible when it mattered. He has no chance of providing anywhere near his cap hit in terms of value. He will likely struggle to be worth half of what he is being paid.

Gionta was the Canadiens best forward. Camelleri got all the recognition, and while he did play good, I don't think he really raised his game as much as his goal totals suggested. Just happened to hit a hot streak at the right time. He didn't seem to be creating any more chances than normal, just scoring on all of them. That's not a knock on him, his contract was fair value, I just think Gionta deserves more praise as he really played great, and showed a lot of doubters that he can be as good as his contract suggests. I still think the contract is bad at the time of signing(mainly because I don't think people were knocking down his door with offers, I think 4 million a year for the next 4 seasons could have gotten it done), but that doesn't mean he wasn't worth the money this year.

Montreal's goalie situation is a good one. It's too bad there are as many decent goalies available as there are, otherwise they could be in a good situation going forward. I still think they could get something of value for Price. Their best bet might be to try and land JVR out of Philadelphia. He has size and plenty of potential. Also, the extra year on his rookie contract would allow the Canadiens some much needed flexibility.

On D they are doing ok. Seems strange to allow Komisarek to walk and then go after a Defensmen that plays a similar game but is 7 years older and only pay him .65 million less than Komisarek got. Quickest fix for them is to buy out Hamrlik and go with a cheap D for a year, and hope that Subban can continue to play big minutes.

Finally, I think they should just part ways with Plekanec if he demands anything over 4.5. The season he just had was worth about 5 million maximum. The problem is that ideally he would be playing second line center minutes and second powerplay time, meaning that his production would decrease in that scenario, and his contract would be over valued. Kesler is a younger gritty player who had a better season and did it while playing second fiddle to Henrik Sedin, so the Habs should definitely use this as a precedent for Plekanec.

For what it's worth, I don't think the Habs are in as bad a situation as most Leafs fans seem to think, or as bad a situation that they appeared to be at the beginning of the season. They still have plenty of Challenges ahead, but there is definitely a way to make this into a decent team. I still think the Leafs are in a better situation, but I don't think there is much of a difference right now. I think where the Habs run into trouble is a couple of years from now. Lot's of things that could go wrong, and lots of money tied up in players that could be hit or miss. What the Habs do in this off season and next will be absolutely vital to the long term success or failure of this franchise.

By: number15

number15 — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:47:16 +0000

if u trade Halak, then Theodore makes sense since Price might not be ready still……. but if u trade Price, then it dosent make sense to make Theodore a 2.5 million backup to a atleast 3 million Halak (minnimum)

By: LeafsneedSteen

LeafsneedSteen — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:42:09 +0000

What emails? No one cares about the Habs, including their fans, that's why there is no longer a Habs community on this site, everyone bailed after last offseason. No one is suggesting the Leafs are a contender. Get a grip.

By: HABSRULEFOREVER

HABSRULEFOREVER — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:16:57 +0000

Nice posts guys!! if the Leafs played with the same passion as you guys do with youe emails maybe the Leafs could make the playoffs… I agree the the Gomez trade is potentialy very costly.. I think Gomez is a good player, but way over paid, I think he is a good 2nd line player, but with his contract he will always take heat… but you have to admit he played great in the playoffs, and he only has 4 more years left on his contract, an well as Gionta, so their contracts arent as bad as someone as Lecavalier's.. Hamrilk and Spacek suck I agree and should be traaded or bought out, but MTL has way more of an upside than Toronto…. if MTL can get another top 6 forward for one of their goalies, they will be fine..

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:33:32 +0000

no one likes a troll. but its ok, everyone can have fun screwing with one.

How about giving up McDonagh for Gomez. Enjoy that contract. How about signing an aging Gionta to more than 5 million. Enjoy watching him deteriorate with age. Enjoy the Hamrlik salary. and Spacek. And good luck getting any more talent with no money to do so.

Enjoy the next season. It will be a real treat to watch.

By: TmLeafan

TmLeafan — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:32:17 +0000

And with your goalies you are right you do have 2 awesome goalies ill give you that much credit although their value may be hampered by the fact there are so many free agent goalies available this off season.

By: TmLeafan

TmLeafan — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:31:18 +0000

Not likely, I think you guys should take a page out of Burke's book and trade some 1st sound picks for an actual star because we all know the habs 1st round picks never amount to anything.

And regarding you guys making the conference finals see Carolina Hurricanes/ Edmonton Oilers in 06 that is why i said "poor situation moving forward". We will see in 4 years time when Kadri hits his prime, you still have Gomez on your team and Gionta is collecting the same amount of money as Kessel who is potting 40 goals a season.

And Subban hasnt played a full season in the NHL yet I would temper your expectations a little bit. We will see how many turnovers he makes over 82 games when fore checkers figure out his spin move.

By: HABSRULEFOREVER

HABSRULEFOREVER — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:11:50 +0000

what do you mean "poor situation" they just made the Conference Finals!!!! thay have Subban, Cammalleri, and two great goalies to trade and get some good pieces… If I were you guys I would be tired of the Leafs losing EVERY season, and not 1 real good prospect to show for it.. the Leafs have sucked for so many years they should be a powerhouse like Chicago, but they continually to make stupid trades..and stupid signings like Beauchamin, Komisarek, Exebly, Blake, Toskala… and hey the Boston Bruins want to also thank you guys for Rask!!! what did you guys get in return?? Raycroft WOW… and the Kessel trade will haunt all you fans for many years to come…

By: TmLeafan

TmLeafan — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:21:38 +0000

Yea exactly, he should worry about his own organization and the unbelievably poor situation they are in moving forward.