Comments on: Bieksa out for months

By: prayin-for-the-wce

prayin-for-the-wce — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:05:00 +0000

Well, Bieksa had a skate in his calve muscle, and his tendon was severed, How great do you think he will perform after he recovers? It is said that the injury was a lot worse than previously expected, and he will miss 2 months minimum, but most likely in excess of 4 months. Before he got injured he was criticized by not only the fans, but the coach as well about his play this year. He seriously made some bad decisions which led to a lot of bad goals, maybe he was tryign to hard to earn his paycheck which btw is around 4 million(im sure you would love to have another dman making 4 million a year for 4 years starting next year, to the most expensive dman core in the league)
Now after signing dman to ridiculous overpriced contracts like mcabe and kubina, do you really think they need another 4 million on the books? The one good dman signing was Kaberle, you guys got him for a steal, but still regardless you will be WELL over 20 million, with just your dman, do you really need that cap space taken up?

By: KingCanada

KingCanada — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:09:22 +0000

Yea i know he isnt no Hossa, i just meant replaces him as in a winger for a winger on a roster spot. Established all star winger for a young winger who could be good one day.

By: KingCanada

KingCanada — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:05:15 +0000

Well that i guess depends on his medical clearance and the nature of his injury. But when you think about it Carlo Colaiacovo is always injured, Darcy Tucker isnt who he used to be so i think trading those 2 would be good because we can get something for them and we get rid of a contract in the process. Tucker isnt really worth the money he makes anymore and Blake isnt doing much to earn his contract eigther. The leafs need the cap space thats not a stupid trade.

By: MR40

MR40 — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:03:27 +0000

I think the trade is fair for Vancouver, but it's just doesn't make sense. It's like us trading for a goalie (bad example, but I think you get the point i'm trying to get across). It's a dumb trade for a Atlanta. I think Hossa will definately be traded, but will get a better return.

Your totally right about the cap thing, but i just think the trade's aren't great.

P.S. Grabner won't ever be nearly as good as Hossa. Hossa has playing making skill's, and scoring skill's, while Grabner is pretty much just a finisher (has great skill's, and could be a playmaker, it's just not his game), and is almost a defensive liability (he is so good, but he just needs to learn how to play a complete game).

By: prayin-for-the-wce

prayin-for-the-wce — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:50:13 +0000

so u want bieksa and cooke traded for 2 of those 4 leafs? I don't think so. Bieksa is gonna be injured for a lengthy amount of time, and who says he will play up to the same level he did last year. Even this year, he has been horrible, I'd love to see how he plays after having a skate in his calve and his tendon severed. Jfj is stupid, just not that stupid.

By: prayin-for-the-wce

prayin-for-the-wce — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:27:16 +0000

They traded Luongo because they couldn't sign him. They got fed up with his conditions, and who would blame him after the way keenan treated him? Keenan had a hard-on for bertuzzi too. They did not trade Luongo becuase tehy sucked for so many years, Luongo was probably the only reason they even had ANY close games.

By: svenki

svenki — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:53:01 +0000

although i agree that nonis needs to do sumthing to bring in a top 6 scorer, i dont think it should cost bieksa, he's a catch, he's the team future captain
he's one of the best d-men we have that isnt over the age of 30

By: KingCanada

KingCanada — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:44:00 +0000

I realy like your Toronto/Vancouver trade i think it is excellent. Im a big fan of Bieksa and hes that sandpaper the Leafs defense is lacking since we have waaaay too many offensive minded defensemen. Cooke is thrown in the balance the books and is a UFA at seasons end so the leafs need not worry about him.

I dont mind at all trading Carlo or White because to get somethiing one must give something. It would also benefit the leafs in trading one of Tucker and Blake because in my opinion they are the same player (Blake being slightly better yet less tough).

But one last thing, does Vancouver trade away a fan favorite who has suited up 9 seasons for them?

By: KingCanada

KingCanada — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:36:47 +0000

OK your first issue regarding Kubina, i only traded him for Morrison because of salary cap restrictions. IF he can be traded to some other team so be it. Trading for Kubina wont cost very much because of his contract, i only mentionned him because Morrison needs to be removed if Kubina is to be inserted.

As to your second point, Why does Florida trade their best player in Luongo to Vancouver?!? because Florida sucks and has sucked for many years. Players get tired of loosing. This is Hossa's 3rd year on this Atlanta squad that sucks. He was traded (didnt sign with Atlanta) from Ottawa. So he went from a relatively good team to a bad one. Now that his contract is over do you REALLY think Hossa has any intentions of staying in Atlanta? Not many unless they want to pay him the most money hed have to consider it. So with that said why not trade him and get something in return for him. Vancouver needs to shake things up offensively so to GET something one must GIVE something in the form of prospects or picks (Grabner replaces Hossa down the road). Naslund has to go because he makes 6 million and so does Hossa, in order for the trade to work you need to exchange cap space. Naslund is being shopped around anyways and if he ever resigns in Vancouver it will be a half of what hes making now.

So again if you DONT think the trade is fair, trade Naslund to someone ELSE for a first rounder and then you can trade Hossa for two 1st rounders and Shneider or something in that area of like a 1st and a 2nd and Grabner. Cap is cap, you need to factor it in wether it be fair or not.

By: turdfergusson

turdfergusson — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:37:45 +0000

The Leaf deal seems logical. Should they get rid of Bieksa though? He's their now and their future on the blue line.