Comments on: Building the Leafs Back to a Strong Team

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:07:00 +0000

Its true. I still say look at Hasek and Belfour. Neither became a starter until their late 20's. Both became HHOF, cup winning goalies.

There is a small list of great goalies like Roy and Brodeur who were able to step in at a young age and stay great for a long time. But theres a LONG list of goalies who came in at 25 or older who had great careers. Look at Backstrom in Minnesota, he's in his 30's and dominating. Look at Potvin who you mentioned, he came in at a young age and burnt out by the time he was in his 30's.

Goaltending is different from other positions. I definitely think Price is a talented guy for his age, but he's gotta learn the position and not give up so many weak goals before he can be considered a Stanley Cup calibre goalie.

Right now, for this year only would Montreal be better off with Price or Osgood? I would say Osgood.

By: the_word

the_word — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:36:16 +0000

Feel for the guy because everyone built this exaggerated myth of what he'd become, the next dominant goaltender. The guy isn't even Felix Potvin and could be the next Andrew Raycorft. Yet those boasting about what his 'greatness' laugh at the Leafs for taking their time in developing Pogge. I'm not saying Pogge will amount to anything, but he's not being rushed or overhyped.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:44:40 +0000

I don't know what he said, but Koivu kicked Grabovski.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:43:19 +0000

lol. I love Kubina but that was his first goal, Hag's tipped the other one.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:42:15 +0000

Price is full of holes. I've seen him play more bad games then good. He needs a lot of work before he ever becomes the guy MTL fans think he is.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:40:24 +0000

Nik Antropov is leading the way with 13 pts in 15 games loser. You think you can get him for a 3rd round pick and some garbage player? Get a life.

By: cam7777

cam7777 — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:28:44 +0000

ha, and is that you on spector asking him what he thinks of your trade?

By: cam7777

cam7777 — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:17:50 +0000

no wilson said nothing, fletcher said he's there only 1st line guy, but nice try. he's on pace for 71 points right now, which makes him worth at least a 1st.

plus, i think we can stop already with this "any other team" nonsense. the leafs have clearly proven that they can go toe to toe with any big team in the league. they surprised detroit, shutdown the ducks, outworked the bruins, exploded on the rangers, and just last night, they dominated the habs. it's still early, but jesus, how much does a team have to do to prove themselves? they clearly aren't the batch of AHL quality, no value players that some of you guys on here make them out to be.

if antropov becomes available at the deadline, there will be a bidding war for him. not because he's so amazing that he merits a bidding war, but because he'll be the best player available at his price range (2.05 million). Essentially any team can spend 1/5th of Nik's salary to pick him up. It will take a hell of a lot more than marcel goc and a 3rd...that's pathetic.

By: sharks4life

sharks4life — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:08:00 +0000

You wouldnt be able to get a 1st for Antropov like Wilson said hes not a 1st line guy on mostly any other team

By: cam7777

cam7777 — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:52:54 +0000

that's good, he'll be so motivated every time he plays the habs. did anyone catch what don cherry was saying about koivu talking to him in the corner? he started to give some insight, and then i couldnt hear what he was saying…