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		<title>By: Iceman23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iceman23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is always true of the Devils.  Even when Lou looks like he&#039;s lost his mind, you eventually come out saying &quot;Ohh, now I see.&quot;  And no one is perfect, so mistakes have been made, but usually they get corrected pretty fast too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought Madden was the in 95.  My bad.  He&#039;s still probably the best defensive forward we have, next to a very underrated Pandolfo.  I think getting rid of Madden would be a huge blow to our team and Lou knows that, so I don&#039;t see that happening, pretty much ever.  I think he&#039;ll retire a Devil, as will Brodeur and Elias by the looks of their recent contracts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is always true of the Devils.  Even when Lou looks like he&#8217;s lost his mind, you eventually come out saying &#8220;Ohh, now I see.&#8221;  And no one is perfect, so mistakes have been made, but usually they get corrected pretty fast too.</p>
<p>I thought Madden was the in 95.  My bad.  He&#8217;s still probably the best defensive forward we have, next to a very underrated Pandolfo.  I think getting rid of Madden would be a huge blow to our team and Lou knows that, so I don&#8217;t see that happening, pretty much ever.  I think he&#8217;ll retire a Devil, as will Brodeur and Elias by the looks of their recent contracts.</p>
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		<title>By: NjDEVSFN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NjDEVSFN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Madden was not on the &#039;95 team but he is as integral as Brylin&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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we do need to move some salary but that is if there is no chance of ridding of Malakhov or Mogilny which no one is 100% sure of yet&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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injury in training camp...unable to play due to injury BEFORE training camp&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Mogilny&#039;s hip problem stemmed from his days in Toronto, not New Jersey&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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difficult but possible that one or both salaries are gone and all this just blows past&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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EVERYTHING will be solved later this month, that we know]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madden was not on the &#8217;95 team but he is as integral as Brylin</p>
<p>we do need to move some salary but that is if there is no chance of ridding of Malakhov or Mogilny which no one is 100% sure of yet</p>
<p>injury in training camp&#8230;unable to play due to injury BEFORE training camp</p>
<p>Mogilny&#8217;s hip problem stemmed from his days in Toronto, not New Jersey</p>
<p>difficult but possible that one or both salaries are gone and all this just blows past</p>
<p>EVERYTHING will be solved later this month, that we know</p>
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		<title>By: Iceman23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iceman23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok people, listen.  This is probably most likely what&#039;s gonna happen and is happening right now.  The Devils had two players last year that disrrupted the team and caused imbalance for most of the year, until those players were bumped off the team. Those two were Malakhov and Mogilny.  Lou has to find some guys to replace them and anyone who is wanting to move, maybe Lukowich and/or Mcgillis.  So right now he&#039;s looking for guys who can fill the shoes so to speak.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I can almost bet that by the time the season starts, the team will look just like it did last year, except we won&#039;t have Mogilny and Malakhov or maybe either the other two.  Lou dealt with a very big problem last year in a team that really had no clue what was going on and it hurt them for 40 games.  This year he&#039;s pushing everything and doing everything he can to make sure by the beginning of the season, we have clear heads and no problems hanging over the club.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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And I highly doubt that Madden or Brylin are going anywhere, as well as Gionta.  Madden and Bryling are 2 of only a couple of guys that have been on the team for every Stanley Cup and to get rid of them would be retarded.  Same with Gionta, who was the leading scorer last year.  We fit everyone on the team last year and were fine.  I don&#039;t see anyone being overly greedy so much that they can&#039;t fit on the roster, but just a worry of getting the right players in the best balance by opening day.  A brilliant coach once said &quot;I&#039;m not looking for the best players, I&#039;m looking for the right ones.&quot;  Always the Devils phlosophy.  That is what I see right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok people, listen.  This is probably most likely what&#8217;s gonna happen and is happening right now.  The Devils had two players last year that disrrupted the team and caused imbalance for most of the year, until those players were bumped off the team. Those two were Malakhov and Mogilny.  Lou has to find some guys to replace them and anyone who is wanting to move, maybe Lukowich and/or Mcgillis.  So right now he&#8217;s looking for guys who can fill the shoes so to speak.</p>
<p>I can almost bet that by the time the season starts, the team will look just like it did last year, except we won&#8217;t have Mogilny and Malakhov or maybe either the other two.  Lou dealt with a very big problem last year in a team that really had no clue what was going on and it hurt them for 40 games.  This year he&#8217;s pushing everything and doing everything he can to make sure by the beginning of the season, we have clear heads and no problems hanging over the club.  </p>
<p>And I highly doubt that Madden or Brylin are going anywhere, as well as Gionta.  Madden and Bryling are 2 of only a couple of guys that have been on the team for every Stanley Cup and to get rid of them would be retarded.  Same with Gionta, who was the leading scorer last year.  We fit everyone on the team last year and were fine.  I don&#8217;t see anyone being overly greedy so much that they can&#8217;t fit on the roster, but just a worry of getting the right players in the best balance by opening day.  A brilliant coach once said &#8220;I&#8217;m not looking for the best players, I&#8217;m looking for the right ones.&#8221;  Always the Devils phlosophy.  That is what I see right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Aetherial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aetherial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, I agree. There is a *reason* the Devils are in a lot of rumors.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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It is very much like people complaining about Leaf rumors and &quot;everyone to the Leafs&quot;. The fact is (more before the new CBA). There was a reason the Leafs werein all the rumors... They needed help, and they were willing to spend the money and trade youth to get it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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People really need to learn not to complain about the *reality* of a situation. The reality is that the Devils situation is the most interesting in the league right now, because of the cap implications that they face, and their behavior, which has been different from every other franchise so far.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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My worry for them is that Lou is a little to confident in his own &quot;brilliance&quot; and he has made some mistakes that are going to hurt, more than he thinks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I did read somewhere that they are asking for Malakhov&#039;s and someone else&#039;s salary to not count this year?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I agree. There is a *reason* the Devils are in a lot of rumors.</p>
<p>It is very much like people complaining about Leaf rumors and &#8220;everyone to the Leafs&#8221;. The fact is (more before the new CBA). There was a reason the Leafs werein all the rumors&#8230; They needed help, and they were willing to spend the money and trade youth to get it.</p>
<p>People really need to learn not to complain about the *reality* of a situation. The reality is that the Devils situation is the most interesting in the league right now, because of the cap implications that they face, and their behavior, which has been different from every other franchise so far.</p>
<p>My worry for them is that Lou is a little to confident in his own &#8220;brilliance&#8221; and he has made some mistakes that are going to hurt, more than he thinks.</p>
<p>I did read somewhere that they are asking for Malakhov&#8217;s and someone else&#8217;s salary to not count this year?</p>
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		<title>By: NjDEVSFN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NjDEVSFN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 08:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flyers, why don&#039;t you just stay annoyed at Gagne and let the Devils do their thing&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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they are not signing players (as of yet) to 1/multi year contracts, most of them are TRYOUT contracts&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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none of their recent signings (Lachance, Dowd, Lacotoure - if they did indeed sign him) count against the cap right now&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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the Devils NEED to make a move so there are tons of RUMORS about them and it is just fitting that they be posted on HOCKEYTRADERUMORS.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flyers, why don&#8217;t you just stay annoyed at Gagne and let the Devils do their thing</p>
<p>they are not signing players (as of yet) to 1/multi year contracts, most of them are TRYOUT contracts</p>
<p>none of their recent signings (Lachance, Dowd, Lacotoure &#8211; if they did indeed sign him) count against the cap right now</p>
<p>the Devils NEED to make a move so there are tons of RUMORS about them and it is just fitting that they be posted on HOCKEYTRADERUMORS.com</p>
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		<title>By: kamullia</title>
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		<dc:creator>kamullia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 06:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just want to add, the timing will be longer than I thought.  Apparently for CBA purposes, pre-season is considered part of training camp.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless, the timing for New Jersey to fix this issue will be soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to add, the timing will be longer than I thought.  Apparently for CBA purposes, pre-season is considered part of training camp.</p>
<p>Regardless, the timing for New Jersey to fix this issue will be soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamakaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamakaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 16:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think this is the problem...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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If I were Lou, I&#039;d GIVE Mogilny and McGillis away along with Lukawich, but I think the problem is finding someone who is interested...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a feeling other teams are holding out till the very last minute to make Lou and the Devils as desperate as possible as to &quot;rip them off&quot;... Fine by me, so long as the deal gets done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is the problem&#8230;</p>
<p>If I were Lou, I&#8217;d GIVE Mogilny and McGillis away along with Lukawich, but I think the problem is finding someone who is interested&#8230;</p>
<p>I have a feeling other teams are holding out till the very last minute to make Lou and the Devils as desperate as possible as to &#8220;rip them off&#8221;&#8230; Fine by me, so long as the deal gets done.</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleDown</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoubleDown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[look, if kesler was like a young modano, you would not throw his name into a trade rumor...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look, if kesler was like a young modano, you would not throw his name into a trade rumor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleDown</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoubleDown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gee, nicely balanced trade. chouinard sucks, rory fitzpatrick sucks. nobody wants ryan kesler. hes going to be a 3rd liner who will max out at 20 goals maybe. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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lous just dying to make the canucks better]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee, nicely balanced trade. chouinard sucks, rory fitzpatrick sucks. nobody wants ryan kesler. hes going to be a 3rd liner who will max out at 20 goals maybe. </p>
<p>lous just dying to make the canucks better</p>
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		<title>By: kamullia</title>
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		<dc:creator>kamullia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did an entire search for &quot;trade&quot; and for &quot;transfer&quot; in the CBA.  There is nothing in the CBA that I found that precludes teams from sharing payments of a player contract.  In fact, there is measures for such things as re-entry waivers were both clubs share payments and cap hit for such a pickup.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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There is also precedent in Jagr and other players whose salary and cap hit are both shared by different clubs (Ranger and Caps in Jagr’s case).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Unless someone can show me in the actual CBA where it says you cannot, I will assume you can share salary and cap hit on a player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did an entire search for &#8220;trade&#8221; and for &#8220;transfer&#8221; in the CBA.  There is nothing in the CBA that I found that precludes teams from sharing payments of a player contract.  In fact, there is measures for such things as re-entry waivers were both clubs share payments and cap hit for such a pickup.</p>
<p>There is also precedent in Jagr and other players whose salary and cap hit are both shared by different clubs (Ranger and Caps in Jagr’s case).</p>
<p>Unless someone can show me in the actual CBA where it says you cannot, I will assume you can share salary and cap hit on a player.</p>
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