Comments on: Doubts about Bob!

By: RealisticNick

RealisticNick — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:26:21 +0000

Chara is only 8 spots ahead of Souray in +/- and he makes 7+ million a year, Souray also has 54 points, so are you saying Chara isn’t worth the money either? How about Brian McGivaway? He makes more dumb moves that Souray who will just often be out of position. Are they going to go out and find another 50+point D-man on the free agent market this summer that is that much better than Souray? Plus they would have to outbid other teams where Souray says he wants to stay in Montreal because of “unfinnished business”, so Gainey did not blow it. Why would he either trade all the young players for old players to make one run? or trade the older guys and be left with all young guys or prospects? He’s not going to be a buyer or a seller for the fun of it, he got good return for Rivet and did not break up the team, come next year that will be extra time spent together and possibly better chemistry and extra experience on the young players.

By: RealisticNick

RealisticNick — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:18:59 +0000

Oh and when I made the comparison to Daigle and Carlo, and what Bourdon could be, it does not matter that the positions are different as I was not using their style as the example but their lack of production or injuries.

By: RealisticNick

RealisticNick — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:14:39 +0000

I never said the players from Montreal couldn't end up like that, that is why prospect depth is important, look at their picks from mid-90's to 2000, we'll stick with first selections, 1990-Turner Stevenson 12th, 1991 Brent Bilodeau 17th, 1992 David Wilkie 20th, 1993 Saku Koivu 21st, 1994 Brad Brown 18th, 1995 Terry Ryan 8th, 1996 Matt (not Chris) Higgins 18th, 1997 Jason Ward 11th, 1998 Eric Chouinard 16th, 1999 Alexander Buturlin 39th, 2000 Ron Hainsey 13th…as you can see even though these players were very skilled in the junior ranks it does not mean they are going ot translate into these big superstar scoring machines in the NHL, in fact all but Koivu were pretty much busts. And as far as knowing they won't end up like the Jackets this year, they are better than them this year and should not be changing too much to cause a downward plunge. They have enough young players that are improving to mix in well with the solid vets, Columbus is missing the older more talented players to carry the load when the young superstars slump.

By: BieksaForMVP

BieksaForMVP — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:48:25 +0000

Like you said, Bourdon might become the next Alexander Daigle (except Bourdon's a defensemen), but how do you know someone from Montreal won't? How do you konw they won't end up like the Blue Jacket;s this year? Nash, Zherdev, etc but they still can't win.

By: habs_forever

habs_forever — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:12:15 +0000

Be careful, there is a difference between trying to make the team better and making it better. Houle also tried to make the team better but that didn't go so well either.

So let me recap some of the moves made by Gainey off the top of my head;

1) Ron Hainsey for nothing.
2) Hossa for Murray
3) Aaron downey
4) Todd Simpson
5) Raitis Ivanans
6) Sergei Samsonov
7) Radik Bonk (Although not as bad as the others, he was given way too much money)
8) Mike Ribeiro for Niinima (Say what you will about Ribeiro being a problem in the locker room but what we got in return was a joke.)

Again, I am not trying to say that the other GMs were any better or that Gaineys intentions are not good...I am trying to say that his decisions have no improved the team since he took over. This summer I believe will be crucial for him as he has made a some questionable decisions (Rivet, not trading Souray, and no moves at the deadline).

By: RealisticNick

RealisticNick — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:39:54 +0000

You won't explain everything because you can't back everything up because it is mainly opinion and speculation rather than facts. My point has been proven, don't post what you can not prove.

By: Les-Habitants

Les-Habitants — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:32:18 +0000

lol, those were the days...lol

man, I'll still never understand how so many GMs in the past managed to put tgether such a crappy team.

and Gainey is awesome.

By: Komic-J

Komic-J — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:47:42 +0000

And that's what it should be...and why I'm pissed at Gainey for not dealing Souray when he had the chance. Move him for a package of good young kids and/or draft picks, and keep on building the team with Timmins. The guy knows how to draft, so give him the tools to go from a "good" prospect to a "great" one.

I'm not mad at Gainey for not landing one of Guerin, Smyth, Bertuzzi, etc...I'm mad at him for not dealing our upcoming UFAs (all but Markov who he should re-sign).

By: sdopus

sdopus — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:06:43 +0000

He's a retard? Learn to spell; YOU'RE the retard!

By: TheStryker

TheStryker — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:52:10 +0000

Originaly I was mad that Bob didn't make a move. But after thinking about it, im glad he didn't. I think that the asking price for players was just way too high. We need way too much help to be a derious contender anyways. We would have needed a goalie, but can you say that Belfour and Joseph are better than what we have now ? Guys with no trade clauses like Tkachuk, Guerin and Roberts wouldn't wave them to come to Montreal. Would we really want Bertuzzi...not me. Sure it would have been nice to pick up a guy like Lapointe or Laperrierre, but the Av's didn't want to move Lapierrierre and Lapointe's salary is over 2 million and he still has a year left.

Most are saying we will loose Souray, but I have a feeling he will sign in Montreal. He and his wife are back together and are expecting another child and Souray has been quoted as saying if he stays in Montreal his family would work it out. Markov has said that his priority is to stay in Montreal.

Bob has some house cleaning to do.
-Buy out Samsonov's contract
-Sign Markov then Souray
-Sign a UFA center (Briere,Datsyuk,Drury,Gomez)
-Find a way to get into the top 5 at the draft (Esposito,Cherepanov,Gagner,Kane,Turris)
-Sign a UFA D-man (Hannan,Stuart,Timonen,Phillips,Sopel)
-Sign a guy who can drop the gloves (Fedoruk,Thornton,Boulton,Kostopoulos)
-Figure out who to keep/Who to get rid of.

Bob's gonna have a busy summer