Comments on: How do you fix a problem like the Leafs?

By: leafs_wallace93

leafs_wallace93 — Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:10:53 +0000

Fire Burke and his staff and begin an actual rebuild and clearing out his dead weight.

By: dumbassdoorman

dumbassdoorman — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:47:17 +0000

lol, well I could see why you would feel that way. I like I said above am not for getting him at a high price. A low price I could live with even though I don’t want him really, I could live with. If we did get him and team play improved which I believe it will either way, we desperately more then ever need a centre ASAP.

By: dumbassdoorman

dumbassdoorman — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:43:04 +0000

Yup, we traded what turned out to be the 3rd overall pick to NJ for Tom Kurvers, who just never panned out. He actually probably takes more heat then he should for the trade, as he did win a cup with Mtl. and scored over 400 pts in just over 600 games. He was however a one dementional player, all offence.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:46:31 +0000

If Burke traded Lupul for Luongo I would go buy a Vanek jersey and start driving over the border for more games.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:44:54 +0000

My big problem with this, besides the loss of Lupul would be this: With Luongo in goal how will we defend against shots from the corner and behind the net bouncing off him awkwardly into the back of the net? A routine occurrence late in Luongo games.

Also, I’m just not sure Reimer is as good as Schneider yet, so we won’t have as good of a kid on the bench to bail out Luongo.

Also, his career save percentage is great! But hockey games aren’t won on paper. Look at his stats with the Panthers, a couple good years, a few bad which he wasn’t blamed for (rightfully so). And then his numbers get great on Vancouver. Now which team do the current Leafs closely resemble? Is it A) Current Vancouver? Or B) The old Panthers?

You think Lu would step into this Leafs situation and post… what? .920 save percentage, maybe a 2.40 GAA or something? Nope, try closer to .910 (very solid, not spectacular), and 2.60-2.80 range. Which is a little high, and maybe if Carlyle can get the guys to overachieve then those numbers could improve a bit, but Luongo is no saviour. Sorry boys.

By: toronto77

toronto77 — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:26:14 +0000

I am now starting to think that Burke was not that far off. After watching Rielly in the prospects camp last week, I would not be surprised if he made it to the NHL this season, and the trainers were impressed as well. He could have easily gone at 4th to NYI, Rielly and Reinhart are equally as good but in different ways, basically picking who you want between Pronger or Neidermayer.

With his offensive upside, I would not be surprised if he went 2nd to columbus, but first overall over Yakupov??? I don’t know, but 2nd to Columbus wouldn’t be too far off. Murray has been compared to Lidstrom in the fact that he can quietly be one of your best players, he just plays the game so calm and simple. As for Reinhart and Rielly, they are players that stand out. There is a good potential that Reinhart and Rielly will be both better than Murray.

I am starting to think that Rielly will be a better d-man than Forsberg or Grigorenko will be forwards. Back in ’91 Scott Niedermayer went 3rd overall to NJ….a 3rd overall pick that was once owned by Toronto apparently. We gave up on one generational talent and Toronto would look even more foolish to give up on another one.

By: ZillyHoo

ZillyHoo — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:30:09 +0000

Burke had the JVR trade going on so that probably factors in… I’m not so sure Forsberg would have played center for us, and maybe Burke believed JVR’s upside was much better so he was free to grab Rielly, who knows right?

By: ZillyHoo

ZillyHoo — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:25:38 +0000

I remember him being on a line with Beregeron and Marchand, but I could be wrong.

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:17:54 +0000

I don’t doubt he’s played wing for them before…. But on most online depth charts that I’ve looked at and i looked at over 10.. (Only rotoworld, and sportscity was different)… He is a center… Just a piece of info

By: dumbassdoorman

dumbassdoorman — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:04:02 +0000

Josh, I agree with what you are saying, plus add in to that if they trade Lupul you could bet other would follow for picks as well. At that point it would be basically a full blown draft rebuild. which would also leave us with a crapload of cap space going forward. Personally I don’t think it will take a big package to land Lu though, nobody is trading one for him, it will just have to look like one, lol. Either way I see Burke doing nothing until the new CBA is out there.