Comments on: Habs need help

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:50:08 +0000

Why? What are your reasons for wanting to take a chance on Grigorenko over Huberdeau? I know he hasn't made the NHL yet, but that's hardly reason to say he might be the next Daigle. Florida had no reason to rush him.

By: THENOTORIOUS

THENOTORIOUS — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:15:40 +0000

Landeskog or Huberdeau? Landeskog, now Landeskog or Grigorenko??? And yes he isn't great yet, Lets wait until he has one good NHL season, remember Daigle? Myself i would rather take a chance on Grigorenko than Huberdeau and so would most NHL GM.

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:21:16 +0000

Yeah, he was pretty good for them. I mean yeah he was last year's pick and I get the whole "new player" thing but come on saying he's not a great player is ridiculous.

By: TheLeafNation91

TheLeafNation91 — Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:18:09 +0000

I thought he was Team Canada's best forward this year…

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:04:08 +0000

Uh few things.

First - Huberdeau is a pretty good player. You know, being one of only two players in the entire CHL to have better than 2.0 PPG pace is pretty damn impressive. He's exceptionally talented, and I mean there was a reason he went 3rd overall last year. And I'm not even sure I'd take Grigorenko or Galchenyuk over him (I wouldn't take Forsberg or Dumba over him).

But yeah I agree it wouldn't make much sense to trade that 2nd overall pick. Most importantly I doubt Florida even takes that offer. Why trade the 3rd overall last year, a guy that tore it up last, is doing more this year and has a year of development on any of the guys you mentioned?

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Fri, 09 Mar 2012 00:33:26 +0000

so pacioretty now has 30 goals… and is on pace for 36 by seasons end… theres 14 games left…. he needs 10 in 14 to reach forty….. won't happen but it kinda shows you that he is fully capable of gettign to the mark…. it is his first full season in the NHL….

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Thu, 08 Mar 2012 22:14:00 +0000

hahah .... stupid google...

Look,.... im not trying to argue for Pacioretty saying that he will reach 40!...

I'm sayiung that with his talent and skills he SHOULD be able to hit the 40 mark once or twice... not even many times... just once... maybe twice....

Macarthur in my mind i feel is lucky to hit 20... 20 is a solid season for him,.... he's just not that type of consistent goal scorer...

Kessel will hit 40... at some point he will.... he's only 24 and is a consistent 30 goal scorer... you can bank 30 goals from a healthy kessel... Kessel will hit the 40 mark eventually at this rate (unless his career turns and he loses his talents)

If kulimen had of put up another 30+ this year I'd be inclined to say he also has the ability.... but this season has shown some major inconsistency... hopefully for him and leaf fans this season was a flash in the sh!tter... if he can turn it back around and show this season was just an off moment for him... he may have the cajones to flirt with the 40 mark

its not asinine to say that at all... sure odds are against them... but its possible... and not it that "anythings possible" way but in a true we could see it way

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Thu, 08 Mar 2012 21:47:38 +0000

ok never mind I'm very annoyed with a particular statistic site that mixed up MacArthur's goals and assists totals. Funny thing is I don't even use that site, I was actually trying to see who got 40+ goals in the last 5 years to see how likely Pacioretty would be to hit 40 goals. Google failed me it seems. lol.I give up on this argument do to my epic fail in not double checking something I should have known off the top of my head although looking back (and ignoring MacArthur's place there…. damn site…) the only guys to hit 40 goals were all-star level players. And on that note, time for bed. My brain hurts.

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Thu, 08 Mar 2012 21:41:04 +0000

This below was going to be my argument to that:

you can say it, it doesn't make it true. I don't mean to attack you but very, very few players that got 30 goals will ever get to 40. It would be like if I said Lupul, Grabovski, Kulemin, MacArthur all have a good chance to hit 40 goals a couple times in their careers, it would be nice but it isn't going to happen.

Heck even Kessel could fail to ever hit 40 goals, more would probably have to go wrong than is usual but it is a fact in the current NHL, 40 goal players are very, very rare even if they come from unlikely sources.

But then I remembered that MacArthur got more than 40 goals last year (you'll notice I Italicized him. lol). I think my point is still valid and I still think that Pacioretty will not hit 40 goals unless he gets that crazy good playmaker, but I guess it isn't impossible.

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Thu, 08 Mar 2012 21:26:45 +0000

yeah sure 40 doesnt happen to alot of players in one year… but its interesting to see how many different guys reach 40 … why is it early… why does it only have to be when the kid is on pace for it that i can talk about it….. screw that… the kid has the ability to do it… that's unrefutable… so why can't i say that he should be able to at some point in his career hit 40 goals… if he can reach 30+ with a rookie centerman … wait until they've both had some time and gained some more experience… he most definitely could…. the evidence is out on the table… and to hit on that last note…. that franchise guy may just be ours in this draft… or more likely just under the "franchise" level….. I'm really pulling for forsberg …. Filip in the bleu blanc rouge