Kaberle pact handcuffs Leafs

The last thing Tomas Kaberle wanted when he agreed to a below-market contract with the Maple Leafs was any kind of attention.

That was the plan. Sign for less. Slip under the radar. Let the high-priced help take whatever heat was around.

It worked when Bryan McCabe was a Leaf. Just not now. So here is Kaberle, the defenceman with a no-trade arrangement, and while he keeps saying he doesn’t want out — and he actually doesn’t want out — and the Leafs keep saying they won’t trade him and probably wouldn’t mind trading him, the discussion about him continues.

It will continue for as long as the Leafs struggle, as long as he remains their most attractive asset.

Kaberle was asked recently by his agent, Rick Curran, if he wanted to remain a Leaf.

His answer was clear: He wants to be here when the Leafs are winning. He wants to be part of that team.

And that’s the difficulty for the Leafs.

They can’t seem to get better with him, can’t trade him. Can’t move forward in any way.

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/steve_simmons/2010/01/17/12498166-sun.html


50 Responses to Kaberle pact handcuffs Leafs

  1. cam7777 says:

    Thanks for that insightful article Steve Simmonds you pile of garbage.  I really don't see what the big deal is here.  Tell Kaberle that we would love to have him be here when the team starts winning – all he has to do is pick a few teams he wouldn't mind vacationing with for a couple Cup runs, and then he'll be welcomed back with open arms on July 1st 2011.  If he's really THAT loyal to the blue and white, what would it matter if he spend all of 14 months away from the big smoke?

    Hell, he and his agent can even draft up the contract a year and a half in advance, and Burke can give him his word it will still be there on July 1st 2011.  We know Burke is all about his word.  How hard is this to figure out guys?  Cir*****vent the tampering rules and start getting creative Burke. 

  2. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Kaberle keeps saying that he wants to be here when the team is winning…

    Does he realize the team needs to get rid of his ass for a year to start winning…

    I bet Burke would re-sign him when it comes to being a free-agent

  3. leafstime says:

    It's all very easy. Tell Kaberle to waive his no-trade and trade him for Kovalchuk on the condition he signs a long term deal. Kaberle for Kovalchuk. Do it.

  4. Kramer says:

    Kaberle's name in pig Latin is Aberlekay. Doesn't sound good.

  5. Kyleton says:

    Are pulling articles from last years archive?

  6. jpmac says:

    Are you sure Toronto isn't giving up too much?

  7. mojo19 says:

    Hell St.Louis did it with Weight and Tkachuk, so why can't we?? There would be no tampering.

  8. mojo19 says:

    Good point, Atlanta might have to throw in a late pick

  9. mojo19 says:

    Abberlacky sounds cool.

  10. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Knowing gods of Leafs past…We'll get caught once again…

    Ballroom tommorow??? I never knew they offered dancing here

  11. cam7777 says:

    There's nothing to get caught on though.  Tampering is only tampering if you converse with an individual when he is not your property.  Burke can say whatever he wants to him until the moment he trades him away – including promising him a return contract.

  12. leafstime says:

    So you guys don't think it's a fair trade?

  13. leafmeister says:

    A 32 year old high end, #2 defensemen FOR a 26 year old, 50 goal, 100 point franchise winger.

    You might wanna rethink that one.

  14. dumbassdoorman says:

    Look, this in only my opinion, but logic tells me Kaberle again gives Burke a list of 10 teams. Why? Well when they were ready to trade him last year at the draft, logic says it could happen again this year. So I bet Kaberle wants a say in where he goes. Otherwise he may end up somewhere he didn't have on his list.

  15. leafy says:

    And plus that's assuming Kaberle even wants to waive his NTC. You can't force the guy if he doesn't want to.

  16. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Yeah…Have fun in St. Louis if we could…

  17. dumbassdoorman says:

    lol, that's awesome…where do you seriously think he could end up?

  18. TheLeafNation91 says:

    With or without the list of 10…

  19. mojo19 says:

    Ya but my tooth was pulled this morning so I cancelled my class for today. Come by next week

  20. dumbassdoorman says:

    Well lets do both…seeing as Burke may not get a package he likes at the deadline…like last year. But do you agree he ends up giving a list to Burke?

  21. mojo19 says:

    And even if he would waive his NTC, Atlanta probably wouldn't be at the top of his list. Not that it matters because Kaberle for Kovalchuk is crazy.

    The only scenario that I can see Kaberle being traded for Kovalchuk would be on draft day if Atlanta retained him past the deadline, then can't get a deal done so they move his rights in exchange for Kaberle. In which case that would be the most anyone ever gave up for a players exclusive rights, so the Leafs would be paying a lot.

  22. mojo19 says:

    That makes a lot of sense. If he figures he might get moved in the summer anyway's, then he might as well give a list of teams he'd prefer to go to.

    If I were Kaberle here would be my list:

    Pittsburgh
    Washington
    New Jersey
    Chicago
    Nashville
    Detroit
    Vancouver
    LA
    Buffalo
    Boston

  23. bbruins37 says:

    so kaberle = krejci, wheeler, hamill, toronto first, toronto second? sounds good. 

  24. dumbassdoorman says:

    I also would not rule out Florida….he loves to play with McCabe

  25. TmLeafan says:

    Yea if we could somehow get Horton that would be sick, or maybe try again for jeff Carter

  26. dumbassdoorman says:

    I truely think carter is a possibility, but not with a 1st pick anymore….that ship has sailed. We may be able to get a little extra, but me thinks not.

  27. reinjosh says:

    looks goodi just hope Burke doesnt stick to his retarded "i wont ask to him to drop his clause" stance
    he will definitely hurt the package he could get if he does

  28. dumbassdoorman says:

    I am very sure he will stick to, however he DID NOT say he wouldn't trade him during the window period. That is why I think Kaberle will submit a list of 10 or more teams. Otherwise he may not like the destination….seeing Boston was suposedly one of his choices, but don't see that happening now.

  29. Kramer says:

    The Leafs have got to make a trade this week.

  30. bbruins37 says:

    patrice cormier is a piece of shit. just putting it out there. i cant believe this guy was canada's captain.

  31. Kramer says:

    I like it. Sounds more rebellious than kaberle.

  32. reinjosh says:

    yeah that was a completely dirty and unnecessary hit
    the thing is, he has never been a dirty player and hasnt had any incidents like that before
    he has always been a tough player but never dirty
    its weird how this happened
    granted ive only seen him play a couple times and the rest im going on hearsay

  33. bbruins37 says:

    didnt you see him against sweden pre-tournament? or against the finns? he's a dirty player and im really hoping he gets kicked out of the qmjhl, and have his career dwindle away. absolutely disgusting player

  34. leafy says:

    I fully agree. There's no room for that crap at any level of hockey. That was a flagrant intent to injure.

    I don't know if Cormier is a dirty player, but this seems beside the point right now.

    If you watch the old classic NHL games from the 1970s, before most players wore helmets, you never saw shit like this. There was respect for the head.  Right now, it's a whole different culture. They've got to change the culture from the toddler level and up.

  35. leafy says:

    Another scenario is that Kaberle will be dealt in the summer when his no-trade freeze is lifted.

    Can you imagine if Kovalchuk is a UFA on July 1?  It's going to be madness!  GMs will be on him like flies on turd.

  36. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Watching Leaf games is like watching a soap opera or Laguna BEach…SO much drama

  37. leafy says:

    My favorite Leaf goal in the past 20 years. It happened with the best Leaf team since the 60s.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eliP-58PqOM

  38. mojo19 says:

    Wendal Clark was such an amazing player.

    My favourite Leaf goal of the past 2 decades would have to be Joe Nieuwendyk snapping it past Patrick Lalime for his 2nd of the game, or Sundin's tying goal against the Hurricanes to force OT in game 6 of the Eastern final.

  39. leafy says:

    Or how about Sundin's OT goal on Lalime in Ottawa, right off the goal post?

    Stumpy Thomas scored a big OT winner against Ottawa in 2000.

    But my choice goes to Clark. Not only was it a great goal, but it also put the Leafs ONE goal away from the Stanley Cup final against the Habs!  Then a fuc*head referee got in the way.

  40. mojo19 says:

    The Sundin inside the post doesn't get much consideration from me, as much as it was an amazing shot, the Leafs swept that series and that was game 1.

    Thomas did score some big time goals for us though you're right, including 2 late in the 3rd period to tie and pull ahead in game 1 vs. Philly in '99.

    I love that Clark goal but I was only 8 years old at the time, so I'm more nostalgic for the '99-'04 Leafs teams. AKA the Pat Quinn era, AKA the Mats Sundin era, AKA the Cujo and Belfour years. I was just older and able to appreciate the hockey a lot more at that time.

    And you're right Leafy, we will talk about Kerry Fraser forever in Toronto. He ruined a lot of peoples lives.

  41. dumbassdoorman says:

    I think Kaberle ends up in Florida….call it a hunch, but this is my guess. For Markstrom, Campbell and a 1st. Or in a salary dump trade which Fla would have to give extra up.  Vokoun, Campbell, Frolik and a 1st. Rumour has it they they wanna dump Vokouns salary and it will cost the to do so. LOL….waiting for the shots to be given.

  42. mojo19 says:

    I know Gillis and Burke are not on good terms but I would love to get Hodgson in a deal for Kaberle and I think Vancouver would love to have T-Kab. Maybe some kind of package including Hodgson, and one of Cory Schneider or Jordan Shroeder.

  43. cam7777 says:

    I think Philadelphia is a more tempting trade partner for Vancouver.  Philly needs a long term solution in net, and cap space (and maybe a pick to replenish the Anaheim fiasco).  The Canucks could use some younger scoring talent, and another D-man:

    To VAN: VanRiemsdyk, Coburn
    To PHI: Schneider, Salo, Grabner, 2nd in 2010

    And then I envision them managing to snag Holmstrom from Detroit this summer:

    L1: Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin, Alex Burrows
    L2: James Van Riemsdyk, Cody Hodgson, Jordan Schroeder
    L3: Mason Raymond, Ryan Kesler, Steve Bernier
    L4: Tomas Holmstrom, Kyle Wellwood, Mikael Samuelsson

    D1: Willie Mitchell, Kevin Bieksa
    D2: Christian Ehrhoff, Alexander Edler
    D3: Shane O'Brien, Braydon Coburn

    GT: Roberto Luongo, Andrew Raycroft

    CAP HIT – 55.6 million

    It just makes too much sense….

  44. cam7777 says:

    The most shocking thing about this is that Lamiorello drafted him.  His whole thing is drafting based on character on and off the ice.  Cormier must be one hell of a charmer off the ice to have won over Hockey Canada AND Lou Lamiorello….

  45. TheLeafNation91 says:

    I think Burke would like Shawn Matthias…Then Frolik…Just throwing it out there

  46. dumbassdoorman says:

    Was reading on the net yesterday(can't remember where…lol) that Pitt is scouting Poni…..wonder if, when and what it would bring?

  47. dumbassdoorman says:

    I was suggesting Frolik….from a skill set standpoint. I threw Campbell in more as a "Burke" type player. Also good on the PK from what I heard and look at Fla as a possible goaltending solution. However that maybe done by a UFA?

  48. mojo19 says:

    I want Tomas Holmstrom!

  49. mojo19 says:

    If they are scouting him, hopefully they were watching him yesterday.

    If Poni keeps scoring at a pretty regular rate, and he's up around 25 goals at the deadline on a pace for around 30, then you'll for sure get a 2nd rounder + something, be it a 5th or a medium prospect, whatever.

    And maybe, just maybe, you could get Pittsburgh's 1st rounder, but I'd say that's unlikely.

  50. dumbassdoorman says:

    tHE FIRST ROUNDER MAYBE A POSSIBILTY DEPENDING ON A FEW THINGS, LIKE YOU SAID HOW HE IS PLAYING, WHO ELSE IS INTERESTED AND WHAT OTHER IRONS IN THE FIRE THEY HAVE? the first rounder will be late so they may not mind? I mean they got a 2nd & 5th for Gill. Sorry about caps use them at work.

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