Comments on: Leafs are forced to trade.

By: cstyle81

cstyle81 — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:23:26 +0000

We all say trade sundin for some good talent. We all say lets start trading ASAP... But, is that really gonna work right now?? The leafs obviously are not making the playoffs, so who bringing awesome talent to toronto doesn't seem like much of possibility in my eyes. They can bring 2-3 superstars and still miss the playoffs. So why not wait it out and go hunting in the off season? More players with NTC's will be interested more in the off season than now! Especially when there is a non playoff team involved. I say wait it out, we will get more oportunity in the off season!

By: mapleleaf420

mapleleaf420 — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:13:54 +0000

Alright criticizing responses all expected but the leafs still have to think about this season. Just because they do have their young talent on a rise in seasons to come, doesn't mean we except the poor play for what were paying some of these player. I would personally like to keep Sundin. I am curious of what these teams think he is worth though. All i am trying saying are that the Leafs have to do something this trade deadline. They are expected too.

By: mitchamac

mitchamac — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:41:53 +0000

If sundin does waive his no trade clause he will get more in return then forsberg , symth, thackuk did last year when they were rented out......

Just keep watching and when the time comes all you (well what ever you wanna call your selves) will be eating your words

By: Wilson52

Wilson52 — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:00:32 +0000

LOL Carson who cares. If Gretzky, Bourque, Messier can get traded, so can Sundin. Sundin has the most trade value, so dealing him would help the Leafs in the future. Hey I like Sundin but things are not working out. When things are not working out you have to make change even if its making tough decision. If Sundin were to be traded he can always come back. At least when he were to come back, the Leafs have some assets to prepare for the future or to play with him. What your saying Carson but not moving him that you are happy with the status quo. The Leafs have to move players with big contracts so they can even have a chance of doing anything.
The best things the Leafs can do is tank, get rid of big contracts and rebuild. I have been saying this before last year. Its funny that teams like Philly, Nashville, Edmonton, St.Louis are ahead of the Leafs. The reason they are better because they are addressing their problems unlike the Leafs.
I love the Leafs but what they have right now on their team for the most part is a joke. The Leafs need to bring in some new blood, more Canadian players so this once proud franchise can succeed again. If you want to debate me on this go ahead. I will shoot you down before you say anything because the last 3 Stanley Cup teams have had strong Canadian players on their teams. If you say anything about Detroit or Ottawa I will take you on.

By: Goleafs1992

Goleafs1992 — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:43:10 +0000

I agree with Carson1620

By: the_word

the_word — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:31:32 +0000

Mats is the Leafs and right now the Leafs are in pretty bad shape. I'm tired of watching Mats play excellent with nothing around him. Perhaps I'm a bit jaded, but I've watch Mats since he became a Leaf. I've seen it, I've seen what the Leafs can do with him as their franchise player. This suppose to be about entertainment, time for a new show. The Leafs miss the playoffs while Sundin plays great is rerun that has reached its saturation point.

By: arigold

arigold — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:13:23 +0000

No real Leaf fan feels good about trading Mats, but sometimes you have to start over. I honestly believe the organization has never done right by him, and I totally respect the fact that he wants to stay, but unfortunately, sometimes you have to start over. A player of Mats quality will bring in a huge payday as far as a trade is concerned, providing a good foundation to rebuild the team. I hate it too, but unless this team goes on an incredible run in the next 3 weeks, we have to prepare to say goodbye to Mats, and hope to get him back next year.

By: Armstrong67

Armstrong67 — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:45:35 +0000

You may be right, but one thing remains the same. Sundin may be the best Leaf player of all time, but not even close as a Captain. Sundin does not challenge any of his players to do better. This is his job. Sundin likes to "lead by example on the ice", be the best player (he does this every night). He does not make the rest of the team play at a higher level, they don't need to because Sundin does it all. He has had ample opportuniy to motivate the hole team to be productive, but this has not happened since Roberts, Quinn, etc, left the fold.

If Sundin is kept and retires as Captain of the Leafs, he will be no better than Sittler, Clark, or Gilmour. All great players but could not deliver the big goal: winning a cup. This is still the goal isn't it?

It is obvious that people who believe Sundin should remain a Leaf, have never been apart of a sports team trying to win a championship. You must follow your leader, not expect him to do it all.

Go Leafs!

By: carson1620

carson1620 — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:51:56 +0000

THIS IS ALL SOO DAMN STUPID!!!!!! why would we want to trade sundin… i know we can get draft picks and we can get some fairly decent players for him, BUT SUNDIN IS THE LEAFS!!!!! he's the only good part of our team, and i always said that for Sundin's sake we trade him, but he has gone public, stating he doesn't wanna get traded. So let him finish out in toronto, we can still aqquire some good young talent, we just need toi clear up some cap space by the end of the year! The only way we should deal of Sundin is if we get someone like Nash to take his place, but short of that, it's just not worth it to trade the guy that has been a leaf 99% of his career! all these trade rumors and all you idiots thinkin that Trading Sundin is a good thing, just wait and see what happens, We are stronger with him then without, he's our leader, and if he wants to stay with toronto, we should be happy that a guy that talented wants to stay with us! Spend the next 2 years building talent around Sundin then in 2 years have him retire as teh greatest leaf of all time, and then we'll have a suitable replacement for him, but as of right now that's too big of a gap to bridge, no one will make an even trade for him, so just let him stay!Honestly try and imagine #13 MATS SUNDIN of the redwings… in red and white….TOO WEIRD!!!!….. way too weird

By: omegz

omegz — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:08:14 +0000

I see what you're getting at, but we've been doing the quick fix for the past few decades it seems, but I wouldn't be surprised if Fletcher did something drastic... well actually I would be surprised.

Crazy fan support would stay if management decides to rebuild, but it's so true how we need another player to pick up Sundin's role after he's gone. I doubt trading is the answer, unless we can magically acquire a Getzlaf or Marleau. I'd like to be able to land Hossa, but the truth of the matter is he wouldn't want to join us, neither would Tanguay. They don't care what their team gets in return, they just want to go to potential Cup winning teams, and they're in the drivers seat about their futures (Hossa has a NTC I think?)

Good ideas, but so very bad for the future...