Comments on: The Leafs, Bruins, Rangers and Penguins have all had talks about O’Reilly

By: doorman

doorman — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:13:38 +0000

You dont also throw out 2.8 per season to a guy who has played 9 games IMO, lol, or i might be wrong. Based on your formula though after his steller and yes it was steller rookie season on a crap team Reimer should have been paid $3mil per.

As for consistent netminding, there are a few goalies that are close to him, IMO. And for all his worth he still hasn’t won them anything when it mattered until then he is loungo, lite lol cause at least lou went to a cup and like him or not that means something.

By: leafmeister

leafmeister — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:42:14 +0000

I think in regards to the best goalies in the world, there is Henrik Lundqvist, and then there is everyone else.

No other goalie has maintained his consistency year to year.

I mean, Luongo, Price, Rinne, Miller, Rask, Quick, Halak and even Hiller (imo) can be better on a given year, but in regards to year to year consistency (Which is what you pay for), Henrik is king. It may make him the most valuable player in the league, although I think he will have to get at least one cup under his belt before he seriously enters that discussion.

By: realistic_leafs_fan

realistic_leafs_fan — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:03:58 +0000

I don’t really disagree.
What Colorado will hang there hat on is “Look what this guy did last year and he was only 20 years old’ kind of thing.
The longer they wait to trade him, I think his value will drop some. I don’t want him as much at the deadline though if we are still in it. He needs to get here quickly if we are doing it so that he gets a good number of games in prior to playoffs, should we make it.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:27:33 +0000

Good comparison Wallace – But Gagner stepped right into the NHL as a 40+ point man at age 18 and is already a 5-year vet before he even turns 24 this summer. His game has improved in all areas.

LN91, my thinking is that he would have been an upgrade over Bozak, Grabo, or Kadri. I wouldn’t want all 4 of them in there. And check out my other comment, like I said, you can have a few purely skilled guys who don’t hit, Kessel has a place in the line-up for this reason.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:23:52 +0000

Price is a top 3? Jesus…. Maybe I need to watch more habs games, because I’ve never seen him as anything special. People go crazy over Price, but he’s never been good for more than a month at a time. He’s really prone to some bad goals too.

Well, he might be able to iron out his game and become great, but I wouldn’t put him there yet. Of course, I’m bias, I hate Montreal. Still…

By: LN91

LN91 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:19:04 +0000

If a goalie is working in a particular system, sign him. I don’t think goalies should be paid 6 million a year these days…Well, unless you are Carey Price, Pekka Rinne, or Henrik Lundqvist.

By: LN91

LN91 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:16:32 +0000

No, I don’t think Fraser is more mobile…but I do think he positions himself better defensively and I’ve seen many great plays under pressure to get the puck out of the zone…There is a reason why he is +13 and Phaneuf is a -6.

I believe that your top-4 defencemen, in any case, need to be very mobile. Big reasons why I’m high on Reilly and Gardiner. I like Phaneuf, don’t get me wrong…But I was always irked by his poor skating.

Phaneuf, I have seen many errors…Most of the times, his errors lead to the back of the net or a penalty because he cannot back check as quickly.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:51:11 +0000

Ya very good roster player and a 2nd. Like Kadri and a 2nd for example. Doesn’t look great right now with Kadri performing so well, but that would be about right.

My overall point is that these 1st rounder and top prospect proposals is a little high. I think some people will be surprised when he goes for a bit less than advertised.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:48:20 +0000

We probably could have moved one of our glut of d-men packaged with Bozak. Similar player’s but Gagner is just a lot better than Bozak.

I don’t mind having a few soft forwards mixed in with the others if the skill level is high enough. For every Bertuzzi, Cleary, and Abdelkaeder on Detroit there has been a Filpulla, Hudler, Ray Whitney, etc.

I would take a run at a guy like Mike Ribeiro even, that’s fine. Look at Boston, players like Rich Peverly, Chris Kelly, not overly physical at all but quick and good hands mixed in with the Lucic’s and Greg Campbell, Shawn Thornton, etc.

By: toronto77

toronto77 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:43:14 +0000

I really think Lupul will get him and Kulemin will going. Lupul will be a huge upgrade to that line as oppose to McClement, Komarov or MacArthur.