Comments on: Let the Burke Bidding Begin

By: the_word

the_word — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:48:29 +0000

And when a trade is a wash, that is a good thing. There is nothing wrong with a trade that is good for both teams.

By: the_word

the_word — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:46:12 +0000

And if we follow this Burke bashig logic, Bob Gainey is only percieved as a good GM but in reality he's only average because he essentially traded Grabovski for Lang. Lets ignore the fact Montreal didn't have room for Grabovski and hang Gainey out to dry. It doesn't matter that he put together a good team. GMs are only good when they have young talent. Getting a player over the age of 30 is soooooo old LNH.

By: 9293

9293 — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:55:56 +0000

again, every year people say the leafs wont score and i say the leafs wont keep the puck out of the net.

this year is a bit different though considering who is behind the bench. I dont think its a bad thing that they are missing the qualities you mentioned because i want this team to draft high this year.

PK is a big problem but that can be easily remedied, shot blocking is up, zone coverage is inconsistent.

the big problem this year so far has been Toskala, who has played pretty medicore compared to the 2nd half of last year.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:09:42 +0000

the-word is on a roll and he's takin all yal to school.

By: the_word

the_word — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:02:05 +0000

I appreciate the support, but I perfer the_verb, just saying…

By: the_word

the_word — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:00:36 +0000

Trades do not happen in a vaccuum. Given the situation Burke faced in both Bure and Moginly's case he was able to obtain tremendous value. In case you've forgotten the challenges of trading big name players in the pre lockout LNH, you'd be well served to look up what Fleury yeilded when traded to Colorodo or the bag of puck Gretzky landed for LA.

How is McCabe for Sedin a wash? Seriously, where was I when McCabe obtain redemption on this site.

Bottom line he proactively rebuilt Vancouver and turned them into a legitimate team for the first time since Pat Quinn was in charge. He did so in a bold Brian Coangelo type fashion, giving the franchise a new identity and achieved this in a relatively short period of time. Unlike other teams that spend never seem to emerge from a rebuilding process.

Oh, just Niedlemayer, Pronger and Selanne. What a hack, because all the other GMs in the LNH had already passed on these no names. Burke doesn't derserve any credit for obtain two Norris Trophy winning defenseman and a guy who put up 40 goals for 1.5 million dollar cap hit.

Could someone refresh my memory on when Pronger demanded a trade to Anahiem. I mean if Bob Gainey had picked up Pronger we'd be subjected to 100 articles on the virtues of Gainey. Hell if JFJ had the foresight to follow through on the deal he lined up with Lowe (Steen I'll never forgive you, you pseudo professional hockey player) many would be more forgiving his short comings.

I'm getting tired of reading 'don't tell me won a Stanley Cup', 'he only landed the twins in Vancouver', 'Pronger demanded a trade, so getting him is irrelevant'. To suggest that these accomplishments should be overshadowed by signing Bertuzzi and Schiender to short contracts and Andy McDonald is assinine.

Jarko Rutuu in the third round is a decent pick up. Here's a thought though, he could hire scouts to tell him who draft. Maybe there are even some within the organization.

Honestly name me a better available candidate.

By: jpmac

jpmac — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:43:44 +0000

Let me first start off by saying that I DO believe Burke is a decent gm. I do not believe, though, that he is a top tier nhl gm. The only move that you have pointed out that would be a clear win for Burke would be the Trevor Linden trade. That was a purer steal.

I would call the Bure trade a wash, and the McCabe/Sedin trade a wash.
Morrision although a very capable player, was never more than a second line centre and in his prime would not touch Mogilny.
Burke did keep the team intact, and they were somewhat competitive, but, in my own opinon, they were never a true cup contender. He never got the team over the hump.

Now some will reply that he won a cup in Anahiem. But really all he had to do was fill in a few missing pieces in Nieds, Pronger, and Selanne, granted big pieces, but the Pronger one was a deal where Pronger demanded a trade ( like Bure) and the other two were two free agents signing on when they realized that the Ducks were a true contender, thanks to Brian Murray, not Brian Burke.

Another thing I would scared about, especially if I were a Leafs fan, would be his questionable draft history. The only signifigant draftees, in my opinion were the Sedins, drafted at 2 and 3......

All I am saying is that in my own opinion, there probably are some better options then Brian Burke for Toronto.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:21:22 +0000

Oh snap! You just got "worded"

By: I-BE-LEAF

I-BE-LEAF — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:49:57 +0000

A 69 between Tina Fey and Sarah Palin.

By: I-BE-LEAF

I-BE-LEAF — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:48:33 +0000

It's like asking someone without legs to walk.