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	<title>Comments on: Liles in limbo with Maple Leafs?</title>
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		<title>By: reinjosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>reinjosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or its because Phaneuf is the best dman we have? Why the hell would he demote him? He&#039;s not doing anything wrong...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or its because Phaneuf is the best dman we have? Why the hell would he demote him? He&#8217;s not doing anything wrong&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reinjosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>reinjosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep the guy who has the lowest offensive zone starts in the entire league for dman that have played at least ten games and has faced harder competition than almost any dman in the league (save only Chara and Boychuk) is a bum. 

He&#039;s a hell of a lot better than people give him credit. His biggest issue isn&#039;t one he controls. having an adequate partner...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep the guy who has the lowest offensive zone starts in the entire league for dman that have played at least ten games and has faced harder competition than almost any dman in the league (save only Chara and Boychuk) is a bum. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s a hell of a lot better than people give him credit. His biggest issue isn&#8217;t one he controls. having an adequate partner&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nordiques100</title>
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		<dc:creator>nordiques100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its about which side they shoot.

The Leafs have Dion, Gunnarsson, Fraser and Liles who shoot left. Add Gardiner too.

They have Kostka, Holzer, Franson and Komi who shoot right.

If they brought in Liles, someone has to play the right side. Carlyle, unlike Wilson, doesn&#039;t really like defenceman playing their off side. It helps when clearing the puck or trying to make an outlet and not be on your backhand. 

That&#039;s why Liles is sitting. It would be him or Fraser and Fraser is doing well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its about which side they shoot.</p>
<p>The Leafs have Dion, Gunnarsson, Fraser and Liles who shoot left. Add Gardiner too.</p>
<p>They have Kostka, Holzer, Franson and Komi who shoot right.</p>
<p>If they brought in Liles, someone has to play the right side. Carlyle, unlike Wilson, doesn&#8217;t really like defenceman playing their off side. It helps when clearing the puck or trying to make an outlet and not be on your backhand. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why Liles is sitting. It would be him or Fraser and Fraser is doing well.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo19</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojo19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with you. I hate it when linesmen are talked about after a game. They should be seen and not heard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you. I hate it when linesmen are talked about after a game. They should be seen and not heard.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo19</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojo19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kostka was a -6 or 7 really early in the year and has steadied out over the last few weeks. He&#039;s improving. I agree though that Liles might be a better option to get us going again. Kostka will be better than Liles within a year or so though, I would imagine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kostka was a -6 or 7 really early in the year and has steadied out over the last few weeks. He&#8217;s improving. I agree though that Liles might be a better option to get us going again. Kostka will be better than Liles within a year or so though, I would imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo19</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojo19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was underwhelmed by Ashton when I watched the Marlies earlier this year. He&#039;s not bad, but he doesn&#039;t have fire in the belly. He&#039;ll never be the next Barishnakov. That takes more than belly-fire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was underwhelmed by Ashton when I watched the Marlies earlier this year. He&#8217;s not bad, but he doesn&#8217;t have fire in the belly. He&#8217;ll never be the next Barishnakov. That takes more than belly-fire.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo19</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojo19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s another good point. Time outs are rarely used in hockey. Why the hell not?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s another good point. Time outs are rarely used in hockey. Why the hell not?</p>
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		<title>By: toronto77</title>
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		<dc:creator>toronto77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one thing that was VERY FUCKING PATHETIC last night were the referees not dropping the puck!!! How many players got waived out!!! This is a fucking joke! This is exactly what Don Cherry was saying!

If i was taking the face-off in a game like that I would slash the ref in the hand, sure I would get a penalty and maybe thrown from the game and a fine, but it would be the talk of the NHL for the next couple of days and you have to make a stand!

The fans don&#039;t come to watch the refs, NO ONE gives a fucking shit about the stupid refs, they call stupid penalties, they miss obvious penalties, miss offsides, they don&#039;t even know when to call a goaltender interference penatly(they get those wrong almost everytime). If your going to keep fucking up all of those then at least drop the puck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing that was VERY FUCKING PATHETIC last night were the referees not dropping the puck!!! How many players got waived out!!! This is a fucking joke! This is exactly what Don Cherry was saying!</p>
<p>If i was taking the face-off in a game like that I would slash the ref in the hand, sure I would get a penalty and maybe thrown from the game and a fine, but it would be the talk of the NHL for the next couple of days and you have to make a stand!</p>
<p>The fans don&#8217;t come to watch the refs, NO ONE gives a fucking shit about the stupid refs, they call stupid penalties, they miss obvious penalties, miss offsides, they don&#8217;t even know when to call a goaltender interference penatly(they get those wrong almost everytime). If your going to keep fucking up all of those then at least drop the puck!</p>
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		<title>By: toronto77</title>
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		<dc:creator>toronto77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya, I am not big on Kostka either. Everyone is saying that Carlyle giving any special treatment and if you play well you play and if you don&#039;t then you sit out. I do see some truth to that but I think Carlyle is showing too much love for Kostka and Phaneuf. Kostka maybe a veteran but he&#039;s a nobody!!! He has to earn his time too.

and do you think Carlyle will ever demote Phaneuf to another line or dicrease his ice time? I say no way and do you know why?? because Phaneuf has that stupid &quot;C&quot; on his chest. I know Carlyle will be fair to all players, but one player that he will show special treatment to is Phaneuf, probably because he&#039;s afriad of how bad it may look on him or the team if he demotes the captain.

The leafs desperatly need Gardiner right now, he has been playing in the minors for a month already, I think it&#039;s safe to say that he has recovered for his concussion like symptoms. I don&#039;t why they have not called him up yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, I am not big on Kostka either. Everyone is saying that Carlyle giving any special treatment and if you play well you play and if you don&#8217;t then you sit out. I do see some truth to that but I think Carlyle is showing too much love for Kostka and Phaneuf. Kostka maybe a veteran but he&#8217;s a nobody!!! He has to earn his time too.</p>
<p>and do you think Carlyle will ever demote Phaneuf to another line or dicrease his ice time? I say no way and do you know why?? because Phaneuf has that stupid &#8220;C&#8221; on his chest. I know Carlyle will be fair to all players, but one player that he will show special treatment to is Phaneuf, probably because he&#8217;s afriad of how bad it may look on him or the team if he demotes the captain.</p>
<p>The leafs desperatly need Gardiner right now, he has been playing in the minors for a month already, I think it&#8217;s safe to say that he has recovered for his concussion like symptoms. I don&#8217;t why they have not called him up yet.</p>
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		<title>By: toronto77</title>
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		<dc:creator>toronto77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing about JVR, he never got the opportunity to prove himself with players like Richards, Carter, Gagne, Briere, Giroux, Hartnall, Jagr and Voracek in their top 6. It&#039;s not that he wasn&#039;t good enough, he just had the least amount of experience.

But Ashton is even struggling in the minors. This guy will def take some time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about JVR, he never got the opportunity to prove himself with players like Richards, Carter, Gagne, Briere, Giroux, Hartnall, Jagr and Voracek in their top 6. It&#8217;s not that he wasn&#8217;t good enough, he just had the least amount of experience.</p>
<p>But Ashton is even struggling in the minors. This guy will def take some time.</p>
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