Comments on: Mega Hockey Trade Rumor Update – June 20, 2012

By: Schneidfeld

Schneidfeld — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:15:51 +0000

Also not absolving Burke of blame, but he’s had some bad luck as far as how some trades have turned out. Beauchemin was an all star on Aneheim and a great team leader, who saw him going bust all of a sudden in TO? Same goes for Komiserik (to a lesser extent). Antropov is on the 4th line here in WPG, where he continues to be a useless floater 70-80% of the time, and the Jets would love to be rid of him and his inflated contract. Not saying Burke’s off the hook for any of these moves, but at the time they were made, they didn’t seem like terrible moves to most, they just turned bad after the fact.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:42:53 +0000

Not backwards, but a lot of sideways moves. That’s the frustrating part.

I know he wanted to “change the culture” but dealing Antropov for a mid 2nd rounder that became Kenny Ryan still stings as of right now. Antropov can play C/W, scores gritty goals, stands in front of the net on the PP (something we’ve never replaced since he left.)

Dealing away Kubina to free up cap space for Komisarek, etc. Lots of sideways moves. Hence the result is the same, finishing in the bottom third of the East every year he’s been here. Again, I believe criticism is warranted. Are some taking it too far? Sure, I’ll give you that.

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:22:56 +0000

And you make a very fair point about Gunnar, Reimer, Frattin, Kulemin.

By no means am I absolving Burke of criticism. He’s made his mistakes and he definitely hasn’t delivered on what he has said. But boy are people giving him the short stick of things. A lot of the above comments are acting like he’s done absolutely nothing and even suggesting that he’s taken the team backwards. That simply isn’t true.

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:15:02 +0000

I won’t rip you because I will listen to nearly anything… And i mean that quite literally…

I like everything from the Beatles (who I grew up on), to led zepplin, to metallica, to killswitch engage, to eminen, to kenny chesney, to nickelbavk, to Blake shelton, to andrea bocelli, to redman method man. To Justin timberlake…. Like the list goes on….. I enjoy most music …40′s 50′s 60′s 70′s 80′s 90′s and now… I like it all……. One thing for sure though…. I hate abba, mamas and the papas.. Madonna… Britney spears…. And new boy bands…. there are others but I’m not gonna list everything…

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:11:15 +0000

If you’re gonna list Chris Kelly for BOS, might as well include Matt Cullen for the Canes…. Oh and there was another guy, hmmm Rod Brind-something or other.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:04:19 +0000

Gotye I definitely hate.

And you’re right, Tim. Allow me to re-phrase. In my opinion anyone who likes Nickleback, Bon Jovi, and current Green Day needs to listen to more music and (sampling from Wallace) “cultivate their taste.”

It’s easy to hate so here are some artists I love, rip on me if you want:
The Rolling Stones, Outkast (esp. early), Toby Keith, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Garth Brooks, Queens of the Stone Age/TCV/Eagles of Death Metal (basically anything with Josh Homme), and the aforementioned Foo Fighters and Chili’s. These are pretty much my all time favourites.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:49:02 +0000

I know the first 2, and last 3, so thats 5, touche. But I couldn’t have named them off hand.

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:52:20 +0000

Why does being a fan of two of the biggest most successful rock bands of the last 25 years qualify you as having bad taste…it may not be your style or to your own personal taste but what gives you the authority to declare someone’s opinions on a certain musical group bad taste or not…. Your opinions don’t outweigh the opinions of anyone else… I’m sorry but I just have a problem with that statement of yours…

And I’m not so sure the crtc thing stands up because any band with a song on the charts gets overplayed… Working in construction I listen to the radio all day everyday… And quite frankly each station is like listening to the sane three hour loop of music all day… Everyone’s ovetplayed equally as far as I’m concerned… Why don’t people hate on gotye… Or hell, by the same reasoning why not the foo fighters… They get overplayed just as much….. That’s why that reasoning doesn’t hold up for me….

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:53:04 +0000

I just want to add, for anyone (Josh for example) who wants to give Burkie too much credit by saying that he took over and the team had nothing, and that the cupboards were completely bare he did inherit Kulemin and Gunnarsson who made an immediate impact for him. Then Reimer came along and became something of serious value, and then Frattin came along and proved to be an NHL’er, so JFJ’s mark is still on this team a bit. If another Frattin or two make their way onto the team I think its fair to say that the cupboards weren’t quite as bare as we thought.

Having said that, look at how long it took for some of these guys to make it, 3, 4, 6 years. So its important to remember, that a lot of the guys who Burke drafted when he first came in could still turn into something. Blacker, Kenny Ryan, D’Amigo and some of the early draftees should come into fruition soon (or not), and then we’ll see about guys like Ross, McKegg, and eventually Biggs, Percy etc.

3 or 4 years from now we might be saying “time to give Burke some credit for drafting (so and so)”.

Just remember Josh, I do my best to try to see both sides of every equation. But I’m still not happy with Burke, at all.

By: leafs_wallace93

leafs_wallace93 — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:11:55 +0000

RFA and UFA huge difference, why would Kessel turn down a huge contract to play for us out of the goodness of his heart? That’s naive.