Comments on: Montreal Canadien Deceptions

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By: habsoverserver

habsoverserver — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:35:37 +0000

The first line has combined for five 5 on 5 goals this season. They are on not even on pace to score 20 even strength goals as a unit for the year. Markov is -8. He and Streit are in the bottom 10 of the NHL for +/-.

By: habsrock99

habsrock99 — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:27:34 +0000

I do remember that and I was quite pissed at Latendresse for taking that. But the thing is, since then, Latendresse has been throwing his weight around quite frequently and is becoming one of Montreal's more effective checkers (right up their with Begin).

If given a solid chance on the first line, Latendresse will score as him, Koivu and Higgins have obvious chemistry. But instead, Carbo elects to start Latendresse on the 1st line then 5-6 shifts into the game, Carbo throws Latendresse to the 4th line for no real apparent reason. Meanwhile, Ryder, who's done crap all year, starts on the 3rd-4th line, gets one shot on net and is automatically put back with Koivu. I am seriously questioning Carbo's judgment on this issue as it seems he may be holding some type of "grudge" against Latendresse for what happend in Training Camp.

By: Labrosse

Labrosse — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:32:23 +0000

you didnt understood my point, i don't want him to fight every night, i want him to earn respect, jeffrey lupul isn't a fighter neither but still he embarassed lantendresse after kovalev received richards' shot to the head after the whistle against pohilly if you got a chance go watch that clip on youtube and look how latendresse reacted when lupul started punching and pushing him like a little girl

By: TheMock780

TheMock780 — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:29:16 +0000

#1: Ryder may very well be the biggest deception in the league! He doesn't work that hard, get's lazy in his own end and doesn't play with heart or grit. He'll be gone wether by trade or by the fact he's a UFA after this season. You'd think he'd be busting his ass going into free agency!

#2: Ya Smo has been a large dissapointment for me

#3: Streit is just better on forward cause he doesn't like to get hit by forecheckers. He's to soft to be a defenseman

#4: Frankie has to play with a jittery Streit and he's one of the few Habs who play with fire and grit and he can fight and hit. They don't have enough of those guys right now to trade him

#5: Guy is gonna need time just like every other highly touted power forward has. Bertuzzi and Iginla didn't hit their strides and become stars intil their mid to late 20's and Guy is only 20! Give him time and he'll become a domianant power forward in my opinion

They can't trade Bouillon right now until O'Byrne has proven he can take over that slot. And they won't get that much for Ryder and Bouillon. But throw in Huet at the deadline going to a top contendre and you may get something.

By: habsrock99

habsrock99 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:06:32 +0000

You can't compare Latendresse to Milan Lucic or Jared Boll for the simple fact that Jared Boll is a fighter and Lucic is a pest who can fight. No one has even said Latendresse can fight (Though he can and he proved it last year against Boston) but why would you have a very talented offensive threat fight and sit for 5 minutes rather then have him stay out and play maybe 3-4 shifts in a 5 minute period, where he could possibly score a goal in that time? Just because Latendresse is relatively big doesn't mean he's a fighter. Look at Bobby Smith, he was 6'4" and weighed over 220 lbs and he wasn't a fighter. Now, I'm not comparing Latendresse to Smith but my point is there, just because you're big, it doesn't mean you're a fighter.

By: Labrosse

Labrosse — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:20:01 +0000

i know he is only 20 but the fact is he isn't playing as well as he did last year when he was 19. If you look at guys like lujic in boston or jared boll in colombus, they are not affraid to drop the glove because they're young. At 6'2 220 i think, latendresse should forced other team to respect him more. No one in the entire league is affraid oh him right now, not even the small guys, he is way too nice on the nice with his opponent, he has to get hit at first or he won't hit anybody. Still i agree he is only 20 and i'm pretty confident that he will be a great player a 25 and will score 30 goals per season while laying big hits every night, but for now there is room for emprovement, not only his talent, but his style one the ice.

By: morrissey

morrissey — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:00:15 +0000

Ryder without a doubt - completely useless so far this season despite playing on the top line.

Streit - I still like him but I am a little disappointed with his defensive play. I'd swap him with Dandenault and see how that goes for a few games because despite Dandenault's awful training camp that lost him his job on defense in the first place, he's been playing great up front and we already know that Streit can do that too.

Latendresse - at least has more goals than Ryder and didn't play big minutes on the top line either. He needs to play with Koivu, Carbonneau put him in a defensive grinding role to start the season and despite his size it doesn't suit him at all - he needs to be on an offensive line, parked in front of the net where he can use his size and good hands to bang in rebounds.

Bouillion - I've never been a fan, he's just too small. Unfortunately at $1.8 million he's untradeable. If a replacement can be lined up (please get Emelin out of Russia) then I'd waive him or buy him out.

By: beatles24

beatles24 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:21:00 +0000

Everybody's agree with your first deception Michael Ryder and I think it's the time to trade him (Even if he his production is great, i trade him because he will not return next year).

My second deception is Francis Bouillon, even i like him , he can do more, a player who can be trade with Ryder for a better player in exchange.

My third is A Latendresse he's a very young but with the pressure for a french player make him hard to deal. Let him take experience with less reflection on him.

My fourth is Smolinski but when you play on the 3rd line it's hard to make many points.

My Fifth is Andrei Kostsitsyn....now he's great but the 10 first games...not what he suppose to do.

For Streit I think in the power play he's great but on 5 on 5....had too many problems...maybe my 6th deception.

Others who can do more
Tom Kostopolous , he's doing good but too much ice for this 4th line player. Not too many points for the ice time he had.
Steve Begin, need to hit to be important to the team

By: 29_other_teams

29_other_teams — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:05:32 +0000

I do agree A BIT with the deception of Latendresse HOWEVER we must not forget that he his only 20 years old and this type of player (being a power forward) takes a lot more of time to develop.