Comments on: NHL coaches: Wait until the first domino falls

By: lafleur10

lafleur10 — Tue, 08 May 2012 21:05:20 +0000

i have always admired dudley and would've said the same thing about him,he's a realy good hockey guy and like i said stevenleafs,the leafs are losing there smartest guy ! lol

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Tue, 08 May 2012 14:14:21 +0000

yeah I would definitely prefer Franson and Murray especially if Murray is suppose to be an immediate NHLer.

If we were going to trade Franson to move up in the draft I would greatly prefer to offer extra to get the no.1 overall pick. I wouldn't even want to trade our 5th + Franson to get the 2nd overall right now (I would prefer to "get stuck" with a great potential player then trade assets to move up in the draft with no real assurance that we would end up with the better player).

Just my opinion though.

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Tue, 08 May 2012 14:02:02 +0000

I wonder what Lafleur would have said about Dudley 2 months ago. lol

By: leafmeister

leafmeister — Tue, 08 May 2012 11:07:04 +0000

You guys never get bored of arguing about Kadri do you? Next year is his make or break season. I look forward to this debate being over.

By: TheLeafNation91

TheLeafNation91 — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:48:16 +0000

Oh me to, don't worry.

But sometimes I cannot grasp your knowledge of the game, like you don't see things that are evident.

The state of the game is changing...It's hard to be successful with just skill in this league, ask Washington and Chicago. It's hard when you have a lot of them too (Toronto).

You say Toronto should base their rebuild on Boston, St. Louis, Phoenix, etc. Adding small guys with real big guys. Yes, that's great. But also look at their undersized guys. Marchand, Oshie, Giroux, McDonald etc. All of them, except Briere, are great two-way players. Add these guys with bigger guys and that's when you got something great.

Toronto already has Kessel that is poor defensively, add in Kadri, and that's already two-nonphysical top-sx forwards...Mixed in with Grabo. That's already 3.

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:27:54 +0000

Ah f*ck it, it's not worth it. I don't want to be a dick. It's been a long day, I apologize for my needlessly dickish comments. I do actually enjoy the debates we have (well some of them).

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:10:58 +0000

And clearly my entire point was that Kadri's not nearly the defensive liability he's painted out to be. Didn't say he couldn't do with more improvement, didn't say he was a crazy awesome shutdown player. I merely stated your idea that he's either a player that scores and plays well or doesn't and is a minus and a liability is abjectly wrong.

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:05:01 +0000

Seriously? You can't spend 5 minutes looking for some sort of proof that Kadri's a prima donna or whined when he was sent down? Nothing…?

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:03:43 +0000

Ok Nostradamus. Let's all just submit to your oh so superior knowledge of the game of hockey. Because your whole two thoughts on the Kulemin and the Leafs came true. We got a guy who knows the future!

Your act is tiring. Your provide aguments, some good, some not so good. When your not so good arguments get opposed or picked apart you deflect by ignoring parts that don't fit into your argument and try and twist it so it looks like the other person looks stupid. Good try but its lame.

You can't even provide a simple link to where the scouting report came from. Grow a pair and be man (or a women if your one, I don't care. Both can have honor). If it's recent and reputable I'll concede that someone who's paid to scout wrote something about Kadri needing to improve his defensive game. Doesn't disprove that in the past three months his game's seen an improvement as evidenced by his plus minus over his last 32 games. Does it mean he's ready? No, but it doesn't mean he's not improving and growing.

By: lafleur10

lafleur10 — Mon, 07 May 2012 22:44:43 +0000

i will do that nords ,i will tell them that dudley is a great addition to our front office staff,he's highly regarded and well respected around the league,and by hockey excutives he's seen as a very ,very bright guy witha very good eye for talent and is a stanley cup winner with the blackhawks,he also built the foundation of the lightning's cup team,he was doing a great job in atlanta brought in byfuglein,burmistrov and i believe had a hand in e.kane as well! he wasn't fired from winnipeg ,his contract was up and they didn't re-sign him instead chose to go with cheveldayoff,…………..so yeah i will mostly definately do that nords, look at his work in chicago as well toews,kane,keith,seabrook etc drafted under him i think he's a real smart hockey guy and the leafs are losing a real valuable asset probably smarter than loiselle,nonis,and burke he's the 1 in charge of your guys draft,how some of my fellow habs fans think this is a waste is beyond me! i think with him ,timmins and bergevin we'll have 1 of the best ,if not the best scouting staff in the league,with dudley and timmins eye for talent and drafting skill we are set up very beautifully,couldn't get 2 better guys with eyes for talent……the habs will really benefit with having these 2 gusy! their records already speak for themselves! can't wait to see both of them together and the stuff that they find and draft for us!with these2 guys and bergevin's work as a scout,and now g.m. it won't be long and we'll be in the top 5 in prospects and in the future's rankings!