Nylander Not A Done Deal, Rangers could target BOTH Drury and Gomez

Larry Brooks of the New York Post is reporting that the Rangers have not had serious negotiations with Michael Nylander, and his new agent Mike Gillis, and that the Swedish center appears poised to hit the free agent pool on July 1st.http://www.nypost.com/seven/

The Rangers are expected to target both free agent centers Chris Drury and Scott Gomez if they are unable to reach an agreement with Nylander. While both men are considered 2 of the top 3 “elite” free agents along with Daniel Briere, both have expressed serious interest in playing with the Rangers and Glen Sather will try to convince both of them to take less money than they would get on the open market to join forces with New York and take a run at the Stanley Cup with Jaromir Jagr and Henrik Lundqvist.

This report negates a previous report out of Sweden that the Rangers and Nylander had agreed on a 3-year deal.

Brooks also reports that the Rangers may have interest in recently un-qualified Michel Ouelett, formerly of the Pittsburgh Penguins.

41 Responses to Nylander Not A Done Deal, Rangers could target BOTH Drury and Gomez

  1. WYflyerfan says:

    OK, so this is like a leaf's fan, players will take a big pay cut to play with them. I don't think so. The top three free agants are at the peak of thier careers and is thier biggest chance to make the money. There are to many teams wanting to sign these players. I think it is almost a guarantee that Drury will sign with a team in California. I am not saying that they are not going to sign one, but they are not going to sign 2 of them.

  2. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    Briere and Drury are sick of each other, sharing captancy, sharing 1st line center, sharing ice time. Now sharing a paycheck??? i dont think so.

  3. MikeGartner says:

    Im not quite sure why Nylander is playing hardball with the Rangers.  We're not GM's and we realize that Nylander's abilitys will greatly diminish if Jagr isn't taking up the space and defensive attention away from his, often times, annoying, shifty ability with the puck, especially at the blueline.  Statistics say it all.  When he plays with Jagr, he's a very good player.  When he doesn't he is an average centermen, but a detriment defensively.  If he's trying to wrangle more money from the Rangers it may work, but were all hockey fans, and we recognize his weaknesses…The GM's have to see it too; but Im sure there is one sap that will give him his 5.5 mil for 4 years. 

  4. MikeGartner says:

    Honestly, Larry Brooks is a damn fool.  And the NY Post is literally toliet paper; if it weren't for paper cuts, and possibly poison from ink, this paper would be located in the tissue aisle at all local supermarkets and stores. 

  5. puckhead94 says:

    That's not what he's saying. He's saying Drury and Gomez to NY, not Drury and Briere.

  6. puckhead94 says:

    I don't think he means a huge pay cut, but if they could get 8m somewhere else, maybe they take 6 each and go to the Rangers. I'm not sure how the cap is right now, but they're losing Rachunek and the money that is owed to Kaspariris and Ozolinsh will come off the cap as well.

    I'm also hearing of Shanahan taking a bonus-laden contract and that bonuses don't count against the cap.

    Remember, this is the Rangers, we've seen stranger things in the past.

  7. senators101 says:

    I truly do not see Gomez taking a paycut to win the stanley cup.  He's won it a couple times already, what does he care? He's going to the team that offers him big time money.

  8. pj1199 says:

    I am a huge Rangers fan and see it as a long shot to get both Drury and Gomez aboard in NY. I do think that Nylander is trying to get way too much $$ from The Rangers. Any number of players can play with Jagr and score 80 points in a season. I can't tell you how many times Jagr is double-teamed on the ice only to leave Nylander all alone. He can probably get $5M a year from a team that would be really desperate for a center (Philly, Toronto).

    I do see Drury on The Rangers next season but then they will have the same problem they had this season…..finding a 2nd line center to play with Shanny and Avery. I don't know if anyone has noticed but Jozef Stumpel, Mike Comrie and Bryan Smolinski will all be free agents come Sunday. All 3 are capable 2nd line centermen, can play 20 min a game and would be a much cheaper allternative to Gomez. They would also allow the Rangers to spend a little more on another Defensemen.

  9. Gagne1286 says:

    How much do the Rangers have to spend?

  10. MogilnyFan1990 says:

    ^Toronto is NOT desperate for a center, stupid…  They desperately need a top notch scoring winger.  Thanks anyways^

  11. pj1199 says:

    You want to talk stupid???
    You're a Leafs fan….that says it all!

  12. puckhead94 says:

    Using http://www.nhlnumbers.com , I was able to make these estimations. The number is the CAP HIT, not the SALARY.

    Jagr, Jaromir 4.94
    Straka, Martin 3.1
    Mara, Paul 3
    Kasparaitis, Darius 2.989
    Cullen, Matt 2.875
    Malik, Marek 2.5
    Rozsival, Michal 2.1
    Montoya, Al 1.834
    Jessiman, Hugh 1.084
    Tyutin, Fedor 0.988
    Staal, Marc 0.855
    Girardi, Daniel 0.75
    Dubinsky, Brandon 0.633
    Valiquette, Stephen 0.618
    Pock, Thomas 0.6
    Callahan, Ryan 0.575
    Betts, Blair 0.525
    Dawes, Nigel 0.496
    Orr, Colton 0.495
    Hollweg, Ryan 0.491

    Avery, Sean
    Hossa, Marcel
    Immonen, Jarkko
    Lampman, Bryce
    Liffiton, David
    Lundqvist, Henrik
    Prucha, Petr
    Rachunek, Karel

    Isbister, Brad
    Ortmeyer, Jed
    Ozolinsh, Sandis
    Shanahan, Brendan
    Strudwick, Jason
    Weekes, Kevin

    Starting Point = $31.448
    1. Kasparaitis is released
    = -2.989M
    2. Lundqvist is signed
    = + 4.5M
    3. Avery is signed
    = + 2.5M
    4. Hossa is signed
    = + 1.5M
    5. Prucha is signed
    = + .8M
    6. Shanahan is signed
    = + 2M (bonus laden contract, bonuses don't count against cap)

    = 8.311M

    31.448 + 8.311 = $39.759M

    If the cap is at $50.9M, the Rangers have $11.141M to play with, and remember that teams can be 10% over cap during the offseason, so temporarily, they could have $5.09M more, making it $16.231M. They could conceivably make both moves at 7.5-8 M each, and then make necessary cuts to get back under the cap (like releasing Malik lol)

    All other RFA/UFA would be let go.

    Again, I'm not a cap-ologist or anything, but I think I'm pretty close here. Thoughts?

  13. pj1199 says:

    It all depends on what the salary cap goes to but I think they should have around 15-17m

  14. pj1199 says:

    That looks right to me. Although Avery, Shanny, Prucha and Hossa are not signed yet. Rachunek has already been releaased and there is no guarentee that Lundqvist will be signed to that either. The Rangers may take him to arbitration to sort that out.

  15. mcpeach2 says:

    I don't know why the Rangers need 2 centers…I only think they need one.

    Put Hossa and Jagr on the top line with whatever top center they sign be it Nylander Gomez or Drury, then have Straka center the 2nd line with Shanny and Avery (assuming, and it is almost definite that both will be with the Rangers next year).

    Straka was having a career year before he went down with a knee injury and wasnt the same when he came back including the playoffs. That and Shanny's concussion, and even Avery was injured in the Sabre series, rendered the 2nd line much less effective than it would have been.  They should all be back to 100% when the season starts and be a very productive line. 

    Third line will be Prucha Cullen and Callahan

    4th Line will be Betts and a mix of Dubinsky/Dawes and Orr/Hollweg.  I wish we could fit Ortie here but there just seems to be no room.

    If we sign 2 centers that takes away productive (and inexpensive) young role player and i dont think the Rangers need to do that. 

  16. ranger_fan says:

    And yet we have a perfectly good roster right now:

    So seeing how this is the fourth article in 2 weeks… here is my response
    Hossa   Straka   Jagr
    Avery    ______   Shanahan
    Prucha  Cullen   Callahan
    Dawes   Betts    Hollweg
    Orr Moore

    Malik   Rozival
    Tyutin  Girardi
    Mara    Pock


    So after looking at that I would like to see one center and one defenseman… ala Hannan and Handzus Gomez or Briere

  17. pj1199 says:

    I honestly think Hossa should go. The guy is terrible. Why everyone thinks he is talented is beyond me. The guy consistenly misses the net. He doesn't use his size to his advantage. And is a below average skater.

  18. puckhead94 says:

    Not a fan of Staal coming up for that 7th spot?

  19. mcpeach2 says:

    i see we are pretty much in agreement….(see above).  The rangers are also pretty far under the cap where we can sign someone and front load the contract.  Would also like to see a better backup goalie so Hank wont have to play 70 games.  Dont know who is available.  Handzus is czech but also injury prone.  My list would be

    1 – Drury
    2 – Gomez
    3 – Nylander (for at most 4.5 over 4 years)
    4 – Briere 

    Also need a Defenseman who can run a PP

  20. mcpeach2 says:

    i see we are pretty much in agreement….(see above).  The rangers are also pretty far under the cap where we can sign someone and front load the contract.  Would also like to see a better backup goalie so Hank wont have to play 70 games.  Dont know who is available.  Handzus is czech but also injury prone.  My list would be

    1 – Drury
    2 – Gomez
    3 – Nylander (for at most 4.5 over 4 years)
    4 – Briere 

    Also need a Defenseman who can run a PP

  21. Girardi46 says:

    He's not all that bad… I mean it seem if he is paired with talented players he is able to perform well… being on the fourth line with Betts and Hollweg doesn't let him shine, he rots there and is useless.  I think he definitly has potential if given the right opportunity.  If he proves a dud, so be it, package him in a trade, i'm sure some team will have a use for him.

  22. pj1199 says:

    He only had 10 goals last season…granted most of his games were played on the fourth line. But I still think that we have better options that Hossa. How about letting go of Hossa…Letting Straka play the LW with Jagr and whoever they sign (Nylander, Drury, Gomez) and giving more ice time to Callahan or even giving Dawes or Dubinsky a real shot at making the team.

  23. Girardi46 says:

    This is a bit off topic, but does anyone else think that Pock is underrated? I mean he's been consistent every time he gets called up to the roster and he seems capable up putting up points. He seems like a good young defensemen that in my opinion deserves a permanent roster spot… but that's a tough choice with Staal in the system.  I would say rotate the two in the third pairing, let them both show what they can do and give one a permanent spot.

  24. Girardi46 says:

    Although I would like to see Hossa get a longer chance to play with the big boys (Jagr's line), I do agree that he is expendable and there are better options.  I would love to see the ice time and roster spot go to one of the up and comers, and I believe that man should be Dawes.

  25. pj1199 says:

    There is no doubt that in the long run Staal will get the permanent spot before Pock does. I do think that Pock is a pretty good talent on the ice and would make a good 3-4 d-man. He can skate well and moves the puck good. Seeing him and Tyutin play together would be nice. i do think that Pock is as good as Mara but Mara has the bigger contract and has to play. Its not a downgrade having Mara out there but obviously the cheaper option would be Pock.
    I think this will be Malik's last season on the Rangers so the following season could hold a spot for Pock if he shows he can be a consistent contributer.

  26. mcpeach2 says:

    Hossa played really well with Nylander and Jagr…worked the boards, cycled well, and chipped in with a bunch of goals in and around the net.  I bet he could score 25-30 goals this year if given the chance on the 1st line.

  27. pj1199 says:

    He did score about 6-7 goals playing on the first line but I just think that there could be better options than him.

  28. mcpeach2 says:

    Pock is a dependable player when given consistent ice time.  Anytime there was an injury to a top 6 defenseman, he would come up and look awful for the first couple of games.  After a couple of more games he looked like he belongs and even begin to contribute scoring wise.  Then the top 6 guy would come back from injury and Pock was back on the bench.

  29. mcpeach2 says:

    You could be right, but his grinding style really compimented Jagr and Nylander well.  I want to see what would happen if he got the chance for an entire season.

  30. pj1199 says:

    You right but this season there will not be room for him to get consisten playing time. i would however like to see him play alot more the following season.

  31. Halibut says:

    Bonuses do count against the cap and they count whether the player makes them or not.

    Otherwise teams would start offering contracts with $10 base salary and the rest on bonuses.

  32. wingerxxx says:

    Pock is servicable, but I don't think he's quite there yet.  That said, I think there's a very good chance he'll be in the top 6 next year.  He really needs to be given a decent amount of power play time, if he's really going to make it to the next level, but he's got to earn that time.  Right now, he's a 3rd pairing defenseman. 

  33. Performance bonuses can be earned at two levels. The first level covers individual benchmarks such as goals scored, goaltender wins, and so on. The maximum a player can earn at this level is believed to be around $850,000 per year. The second level is for much rarer achievements, like winning a major NHL award or ranking among the NHL's top players in a statistical catregory. The maximum a player can earn at this level is estimated at $2 million per year. Performance bonuses under the old agreement were subject to few limits.
  34. With some exceptions, performance bonuses are paid by the league and do not count against a team's salary cap. But they do count in calculating the league-wide share of player revenue.
  35. Maybe you were thinking of signing bonuses. I'm talking about performance bonuses…

  • wingerxxx says:

    Brooks cracks me up.  I love it.  This sounds a lot like one of Uncle Larry's trade and free agent "suggestions." 

    Anyone with an iota of common sense knows that no team is going to pay Nylander more than what the Rangers will give to him.  He plays with Jaromir Jagr.  And you know that he knows, that its in his best interest to stay with the Rangers. 

    Every GM in the league knows that while Nylander is a good offensive center, Jagr makes him look awfully good and opens up a lot of ice for him.  Jagr made him look better in Washington, and makes him look better in New York.  I would be absolutely stunned if Nylander did not resign with New York.

    That leaves targeting Drury, which I think the Rangers should do, regardless of what impact it has in the locker room.  I'm not too huge on Gomez.  The last time the team signed a Devils free agent center, it didn't work out too well. 

  • ranger_fan says:

    Henrik played about 65-70 this year. I dont like Valiquette either but Montoya would be best suited as the Hartford starter, NHL callup. I think he is ready for 20 games easily, but with Valiquette there, unless they get Yann Denis or sign one cheaply leave it alone.

    I think Drury would compromise Jags leadership so im skeptical.

    And a PP defenseman? It wouldn't work. Jagr needs the puck on the PP despite how most of us hate that. Rozival is fine, and I really would like Tyutin on the point as he has a solid shot. Mara and Pock also fit the bill

  • ranger_fan says:

    Not to start the season I'm not. Liffiton or Baranka would be my #7. Staal would be welcomed after a couple of months in the AHL

  • ranger_fan says:

    Better options for under 2 million?

  • ranger_fan says:

    It doesn't stop with Holik. John MacLean sucked, Bruce Driver didn't help. NJ players in general don't work out.

  • puckhead94 says:

    Maybe Dainius Zubrus?

  • ranger_fan says:

    The Isles will give him like 4.5

  • puckhead94 says:

    lol, whenever something must be ruined, count on the fishermen.

    5 to 1 says that the Rangers win the Stanley Cup twice before the end of DP's contract…

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