O'Neill Getting The Boot?

Jeff O’Neill has struggled to find his goal scoring touch all year and now has wound up as one of the big names in the rumour mills and the trading block. As reported at TSN.ca, Bob McKenzie thinks that O’Neill will be moved by the trade deadline for the right price. His $3.7 million dollar contract expires after this year. McKenzie also reported that the ‘Canes have “looked to the future without him” implying that O’Neill will be moved, and maybe a young player with potential will come in return.

My take: Spector goes on to note that the ‘Canes would move him if they get a good offer. I don’t think they have much bargaining power here, as O’Neill has slumped, and his contract ends after this season. With that being said, it might not make much sense to move him, being that he had one bad year, is still 27 (28 in February), and was consistently a 30 goal scorer in the 3 previous years, scoring 40 in 2001. The teams that I think could be interested are LA, NYR, St. Louis, Edmonton, Detroit (if Zhamnov is not obtained – for more on that, spectorshockey.net), and Montreal.

It should be interesting to see where he ends up.


45 Responses to O'Neill Getting The Boot?

  1. Sunnyg says:

    go figure…the trade rumours start going and suddenly he gets a hat trick in last night’s game….maybe he’ll finally snap out of this incredible slump he’s been in all year. i’m really hoping he does because he’s been screwing me in my hockey pool all season long! i just don’t understand how a guy who has been a consistent goal scorer for the past 3-4 years can suddenly go MIA for more than half the season!

  2. Swaottawa says:

    You know what is crazy… I said way back at the start of November that the Oilers where going to sign Oats… and in that little spiel I also said that O’Neill would end up out of Carolina by the end of this season… maybe too the Oil or somewhere his skill would be complimented by speedy wingers… and I got cut up… now look what’s going on… O’Neill is rumored out of Carolina… Big surprise… It just figures… Caroline is Center heavy and O’Neill’s been forced onto the wing… his best years came at center with Kappenan…. Big center speedy winger… I can see him in Montreal, and maybe Detroit on your list… but Edmonton if there out of the playoffs won’t bother, NYR don’t need him, ditto for St. Louis… nor do either of those teams have what the canes are looking for… and LA is a write off… literally… I say the flames should make a push for O’Neill… and I’ve always said that O’Neill would look great in between and mixing with Ottawa’s speed… If Bonk can put 70 pts up with Hossa and Havlat on his wing just imagine what O’Neill could do… but that’s just a dream…

  3. Treva says:

    What is a good offer for the canes? Are they looking for draft picks or a quick fix? With Francis on his way to retirement (it has to be sooner rather than later), Wesley and Brindamour have hit their peaks. Cole and Staal are looking like good building blocks.

    If Carolina is looking to build – look for teams like Vancouver, Detroit (why they need another center is beyond me), Ottawa and perhaps L.A. to try and shell out some high draft picks.

  4. TC_4 says:

    I would hope the Canucks are planning on getting rid of the Sedin’s sometime soon, so why not ship them to Carolina and get O’Neill and something else? I agree with LA, St. Louis I thought is set, but I could be wrong, same thing with Detroit and the Rangers. I would love to see him in a Habs uniform as well. He would look really good on a line with Koivu and Ryder(Bulis gone in the deal).

  5. avsfan19-33 says:

    If i was Vancouver i would definitely be looking to acquire O’Neill. They need someone to help them in the scoring department, besides the top line. Everyone knows that they’ll need more depth to compete with the Avs in a race for the top spot in the West.

  6. comrie44 says:

    O’Neill is exactly what the Canucks need in my opinoin, someone other than Markus Naslund who can put the puck in the net consistently.

    I know hes been anything but consistent this year, but he’s a solid 30 goal man and a change of scenery could do him well.

    O’Neill had his best season when he was a RW (41 goals) and he’d fit in well with the Sedins.

    I believe he is also an old friend of Bertuzzi if I’m not mistaken.

    O’Neill is a guy that has been rumoured to have been coming here for a long time but before now it seemed like a pipe dream, but with the season he’s having and his salary, I think a deal could be made.

  7. d_only_Flames_Fan says:

    For the flames to pick up o neill we would have to dump salary, but maybe management would give the ok on the extra spending money because attendence is up.

  8. Arrowsmith says:

    Getting rid of the Sedin’s is not only “not going to happen , it’s also a ridiculous idea.” The Sedin’s are good players only getting better. The problem they have always had to this day, is that they have alway had a 3rd or 4th liner on their wing. They need someone with scoring/sniper ability on their line.

    They played the better part of their NHL career with Trent “hands-of-stone” Klatt as their line-mate and never complained. This year they had a hot handed rookie in King play along side of them, and it worked until he came down to reality and is not the full nhl player yet. THEY NEED AN O’Neill or another 27-30 yr old sniper/goal-scorer to actually put the puck in the net.

    Bring on O’Neill to Vancouver……

  9. GretzNYR99 says:

    Even with O’Neill in a slump, Bulis isn’t that great of a player, and that’s one of hell of a ripoff if you ask me. Maybe Perreault for O’Neill, if the Habs wanted to deal with them, 2 players that need a change of scenery and have been in the doghouse for a larger part of the season to this point. I’m starting to think that the Sedin’s are busts, or were just overhyped. St. Louis wanted Mark Parrish, Larry Pleau had inquired about him, I think O’Neill is a significant upgrade over Parrish, and would help them dearly. The Rangers will get a scoring winger come the deadline, Alexei Kovalev has only came on as of late, and if he doesn’t keep it up, which he probably won’t, he’ll be gone. O’Neill for Kovalev could go if a large part of Kovalev’s salary is eaten. It’s a very similar case to Perreault for O’Neill.

  10. GretzNYR99 says:

    Yeah, I’m not too sure about Calgary picking him up, it could happen though.

  11. GretzNYR99 says:

    I agree, Vancouver’s system would actually benefit him well. Good pucking moving offense with responsible defense. O’Neill’s contract ends this year, so if he wants to go to a winner, and Vancouver could be a perennial cup contender with one more piece, which I thought was going to be Ray Whitney during the summer, O’Neill just might go there, and could sign for a lower amount if he really wants to be apart of a winner.

  12. GretzNYR99 says:

    I know O’Neill isn’t a winger, but could play it, he’d work well with Eric Lindros.

    But even if, Petr Nedved could see himself out of broadway if his troubles don’t seem to go away. The Rangers could eat Nedved’s salary, his contract ends this year also, and get O’Neill in return. I think O’Neill would work well with Anson Carter, and Jamie Lundmark, if he isn’t traded for him. That could be a good line.

  13. RangerSteve says:

    Nucks are having trouble with signing RJ Umberger(from last I heard), and Burke doesn’t like Fedor Fedorov….anybody smell O’Neill heading to Vancouver? Detroit is looking more towards Zhamnov and probably would be the ‘cheaper option’. LA is injury riddled and I have no idea exactly who they’d be wiling to give up. St. Louis apparently is looking for a defenseman, NYR def. doesn’t need him because he’ll vanish just like the rest of the premadonnas(okay I’m bad at spelling) that have come in at mid-season to ‘push this team into the playoffs.’ Like I said, O’Neill in Vancouver probably makes the most sense if Carolina is looking to rebuild and get some prospects back. ANybody agree with me or am I crazy for thinking about both Umberger and Fedorov?

  14. TC_4 says:

    Bulis is worth A LOT more then Perreault because he’s younger and makes less. I doubt the Rangers want him period. The only reason the Rangers get him is if Carter, Kovalev, or Nedved are dumped somewhere else. You have to think that Carolina is looking for a young d-man and prospect. The Rangers have Fedor Tyutin, so that and a pick would be suitable. Montreal has Hainsey and Hossa, St.Louis has Shawn Belle and Jay McClement, so maybe something like that could be done. But I disagree and I think many others would as well that Perreault(espically when the Canes have so many centres already, and making too much money)would be worth more then Bulis.

  15. TC_4 says:

    I don’t agree. I think the Sedin’s are going to flop because when I see them play, they look scared out there. I can’t believe that Canuck fans such as yourself are satisfied with these guys(26 and 24 points a piece, and most of that comming in the first month and a half)after you guys had to give up so much for them. You would still have Bryan McCabe and probably a pick like Taylor Pyatt(who’s development isn’t too far behind the Sedin’s, with more upside at 6’4, 225). Bottom line, it’s me personally and some people agree that they don’t like the Sedin’s. I would guess it’s 50/50 with Canuck fans.

  16. Lint07 says:

    Perreault isn’t worth much in a deal with Carolina and I agree that a guy like Bulis along with Hainsey could be very attractive for the Canes.

    HOWEVER, Perreault could very be the missing piece of the puzzle for any contender outthere. Not only is he arguably the best at faceoff in the entire league, but this is a guy with an offensive upside if used on a 2nd line and/or the PP.

    Right now he is useless on the 4th line with us, though.

  17. GretzNYR99 says:

    I thought Bulis would be a really good player, but to me, he’s a bust. I remember when he first came in with Washington, and everyone thought he’d be a 30 goal guy one day, I just don’t see it happening. Could be a good checking player if his defensive game improves. But to me, Perreault is a better player. I agree that he’s worth less, being that he’s older and more expensive, plus the fact that he’s a UFA after this season. But when the trade deadline comes around, he’ll be shopped and get quite a few offers in return being that a lot of playoff teams, especially cup contenders that need that last piece could use a good 2-way center who’s been the best faceoff man in the NHL for the last 4 years.

  18. GretzNYR99 says:

    By the way, Fedor Tjutin isn’t going anywhere, I can tell you that right now. Jamie Lundmark could go. The age difference is only a few years, and Lundmark still has good potential.

  19. GretzNYR99 says:

    I think you’re crazy, bro. I don’t think Carolina would be willing to take a chance on a guy who infuriated his GM. Umberger wanting out isn’t exactly a good sign either.

    I think you’re wrong about him vanishing. He’d actually fit in here. I think the reason Carter vanished is that he was a star in a small city where there was really no pressure to put forward big numbers, and he was on the power play. Plus that and the transition from West to East killed him after playing 3 years in the West.

  20. GretzNYR99 says:

    I agree with you, I personally believe that they’re gonna be busts. But hey, look at Todd Bertuzzi, he was viewed as a bust for a while. It took him a long time to really develop.

  21. GretzNYR99 says:

    Oh shit, I didn’t even see that you said that blurb about Perreault being the missing link, Marco. My bad.

  22. TC_4 says:

    That’s VERY true! Lundmark and O’Neill are very simular players. Good point Gretz!

  23. TC_4 says:

    Let’s hope guys like Lundmark(espically for your sak), Pyatt, Connolly, Bell, McCarthy, and Stefan are late bloomers too!

  24. RangerSteve says:

    ‘I think you’re crazy, bro. I don’t think Carolina would be willing to take a chance on a guy who infuriated his GM. Umberger wanting out isn’t exactly a good sign either. ‘

    They traded Pavel’my 2nd home is McDonald’s’ Brendl for Sami Kapanen. Your meaning to tell me they won’t take a chance on Umberger or Fedorov? Just because a player gives a GM a hard time about signing a contract doesn’t mean another franchise won’t want him(Comrie to Philly, Arnott when he held out and was then traded to Dallas etc.) I want to know who NYR would give up for O’Neill..let me guess, Carter, Poti, Purinton or Lundmark? 😀 Logically tho, who will Carolina want in return from any of those teams listed above? I think your crazy for saying NYR will fit in, as is Jamie Lundmark seems out of place with this line-up. Oh yeah, please waive Dan LaCouture or trade him for a pick or something..guy I don’t think will find his way back into the line-up.

  25. MantaRay says:

    If the Canes are giving up on ONeill he would be welcomed in NJ.

    I think playing for a Championship organization would rejuvenate his career (similiar to Mogilny).

    The Devils have too many untouchables in the starting line-up but I could see the Canes taking Ahron and a 3rd round pick for him.

  26. wheresthesoda says:

    i really dont think the Rangers will make a trade for oneill because right now the rangers are playing like a playoff team. Everyone is skating and everyone is playing there best.

    kovalev is starting to score. He is shooting more but he has to use his wrist shot. last night in montreal it must have been like 3 times in one shift where he attempted a slap shot and he didnt get a shot off. he has a quick wrist shot and i’d like 2 see him use it more.

    Another thing….I dont think Sather will ever trade one of his most talented prospects.

    so lundmark, tjutin and blackburn will always be in the rangers organization while sather is the gm.

  27. GretzNYR99 says:

    Similar to Mogilny… well remember one thing, Mogilny played for Larry Robinson, he is a far less defensive coach than Pat Burns is. If O’Neill is looking to come to NJ, his offensive numbers are going to drop just like every other scorer on that team. Look at Patrik Elias, he hasn’t had a good offensive season since 2001, playing with the A-Line. If he stays in NJ, as long as Burns is there, he’ll never have another big offensive season again unless the redline is taken out.

  28. GretzNYR99 says:

    The problem with Jamie Lundmark is that he’ll never get his chance with NY, not with the braintrust there (Jim Dolan, the owner) being a miserable know-nothing peon who thinks that being like George Steinbrenner and telling his gm to go out and get every big name player will work for Hockey. I’d love to hold onto Lundmark, but unless this CBA comes in and makes things right, Lundmark isn’t getting a chance here in NY. I’m disgusted that I’ve had to come to this realization, he’s been our top prospect for so long, and now he’s just gonna be wasted, like all the others.

    Pyatt reminds me a lot of Bertuzzi. Similar size, similar stature, similar career path. Both played for Sudbury Wolves in juniors, both put up great numbers there, both were Islander picks, both were late bloomers. I see the same thing happening that happened to Bertuzzi. Give him time.

    Connolly to me is a bust, he doesn’t have the work ethic, and plays on a circular rink.

    Mark Bell, I’d love to have that kid. He’s a power-forward in the making. Give him some quality ice time with some decent linemates, and you’ll see his points go up.

    Steve McCarthy will be a good 2-way defenseman one day. Kinda like Scott Niedermayer, maybe more physical.

    Stefan is soft, but has such good hands and vision. It would be a real shame to see his talent go to waste. If only he knew how to use his size, he’d be much more dangerous.

  29. GretzNYR99 says:

    “They traded Pavel ‘my 2nd home is McDonald’s’ Brendl for Sami Kapanen.” LOL, so true.

    I think they’ll actually LEARN from that one. Purinton might no go anywhere. I think if you put Poti back on the power play at the point, his numbers go up, although his defense still sucks ass. Jamie Lundmark hasn’t fit in because he’s been shuffled around. First he played with Lindros, then Messier, then Moore and LaCouture which was a great line. Sather needs to stop shuffling around the lines. I think Danny will come back if anything, and Wiseman will get sent down.

  30. GretzNYR99 says:

    I said the age difference is only a few years, not the only difference is age.

  31. Furlong19 says:

    OK first things first. If O’neill does get traded it will only be at or near the deadline. Playoffs are still in reach for the Hurricanes. They are 8 pts out of division lead and 7 out of playoff spot. They have 37 games left in the season and the will have to 8 or so games in those 37 to make the playoffs. So like 20-12-5 or somthing similar. That’s still attainable for sure. If they can’t achieve that it will become more clear in the following month. And if it’s unattainable they will likely unload some key guys and get some depth and/or prospects. In which case O’neill will be moved then, most likely to a playoff team. I can’t see the ‘canes trading him to an eastern team let alone a divisional rival so in all likelihood the west seems logical. And the teams there that make sense that need goal scoring are St. Louis, Dallas, San Jose, or even Vancouver (especially if they face the blues in the 1st round). In the east the isles, bruins and habs would all be nice fits for O’neill. Isels always need good wingers, Bruins need stronger 2nd line and the habs need more scoring wingers. Who know’s though. Give it time. If an O’neill deal does happen it won’t be in the coming days. Wait a month or so. Also, O’neill turned it on the other day scoring all 3 goals in a win over the Thrashers, so he does have a hot hand that the canes will ride out a bit.

  32. Arrowsmith says:

    Let’s come back to this “if and when” Burke finally pulls the LONG AWAITED trigger for a reasonable bonafide 2nd line winger/sniper to play with them. If they don’t improve with a proven 3 million dollar man on the wing, I’ll eat my words.

  33. Arrowsmith says:

    O’Neill for RJ Umberger (1st rounder), Fedor Fedorov, and Chubarov. Done Deal and it opens up some room for a trade deadline player as well, as we allow a few Moose players to jockey for a spot until then.

  34. TC_4 says:

    Yeah, Lundmark is 5 years younger, they’re both right handed, both 6’1, both often get used on there off winger, both a versitle.

  35. RangerSteve says:

    See…I didn’t think I was that crazy :-D…I’d love to see O’Neill go to Vancouver. I’m sure Burke wouldn’t want to move any roster players of any high caliber..should be interesting.

  36. RangerSteve says:

    He might regain that drive to play on a contender, but I think he still has the drive. The guy just can’t score this season just like a lot of goal scorers. If he did end up going to Jersey, his #s wouldn’t jump up at all, but he would make a good fit. Did you mean Ahonen and a 3rd? I haven’t heard anything about Ahron? If it were Ahonen, I highly doubt that the Canes would take that.

  37. RangerSteve says:

    I agree with you 110%…for the first time in a long time, the Rangers are battling back in games after being down and scoring late giving themselves a point and a shot at another. They outplayed Montreal badly last night, and how you botch a 2 on 0 is beyond me…Rucinsky should have sent it back to Nedved or Nedved should have came in on his own n put that in. Anyway, Tjutin I can’t see being moved and like a few other Ranger fans have said, Lundmark’s roll on this team has yet to be defined due to Sather jumping him around all over the place. Blackburn, as terrible as it sounds, might at some point because expendable depending on how Lundqvist(Swedish guy I think that’s his name) plays…he’s over in teh Swedish league right now and apparently is the #1 or #2 goaltender in the country. I just don’t want to see Slats go out and make a trade to bring in another offensive guy mid season only to have him not make any impact til the following. Carter’s starting to hit his stride, Lindros is showing signs of the guy from Philly we all hated, and Kovalev is startign to score. Now all we need is for these guys to start putting their opponents away early to stop a 6 years w/ no playoffs.

  38. GoFlamesGoFlamesGo says:

    Ok i like the article good work. I may be way out in left field here but what about a possile trade with calgary. for one the flames could add a little scoring to their lineup if a real playoff push is in mind. The flames could make a push for Oneil in the way that they could get rid of Denis Gautier and maybe a 2nd round pick. In calgary they could move him to the wing once all our centers are healthy and we would have that 1st and 2nd scoring punch weve been looking for on a consistent basis.

  39. Habfanforever says:

    I still think the Rangers need him.

  40. GretzNYR99 says:

    Ah, alright, I thought you misunderstood me.

  41. GretzNYR99 says:

    I agree with you, but Kovalev to me is streaky, and I don’t see him scoring big. I’m sorry, he couldn’t handle NY, and 43 games in or however many we’ve played, I still don’t believe that he can handle it here.

    I’m sorry, but I feel that Lundmark should be traded. Jim Dolan is impatient, we all know this. He’s also an idiot with an endless cashflow, literally. Dolan will tell Sather to go out and persue a big name star and stunt the youth’s development. Dolan thinks that what works with the Yankees will work in the NHL. He tries to be like Steinbrenner. He’s not even half of what that asshole is, and I hate Steinbrenner.

  42. GretzNYR99 says:

    Good points you’ve made, but I don’t see Calgary messing with their team now. They’ve found a winning formula, and still have guys on the IR, so if anything, when Conroy comes back and they flop a little, then a trade could be made.

    Gauthier is not going anywhere. For the last 3 years, I’ve heard his name on the mill every year, but yet, he hasn’t moved a bit. Gauthier is apart of the best young defense corps in years, it wouldn’t make sense to move him. People have brought up a point about Phaneuf coming up, which is a valid point, but Warrener, Gauthier, Lydman, Reghyr, Leopold, Phaneuf? That’s scary, facing that core. They’re big, can move the puck, are sound defensively, and last but not least… did I mention that they could hit like a ton of bricks?

  43. GretzNYR99 says:

    I agree, we need someone to finish for Lindros. I’ve said this time and time again, Lindros has set up an uncountable number of quality scoring chances and plays down low and in key scoring areas, only to have Matt Barnaby and Chris Simon score 2 out of every 10 times, which isn’t enough. O’Neill’s speed and gritty play would help Lindros out, as he would be like Barnaby but much more skilled, and Simon could stay on his left. Even if that wasn’t the case, give Carolina Nedved with his salary eaten, and he could work well with Anson Carter. Any change of scenery is going to do O’Neill good if you ask me.

  44. GretzNYR99 says:

    I agree with almost everything that you’ve said, except for the part about not trading with an eastern team. It could most defenitely happen. Like you said, as of right now, they’re out of the race. “20-12-5 or somthing similar…” that’s attainable, but in the east where the competition is high, that’s a great feat to accomplish. I’m not trying to down Carolina, but that’s hard. So I wouldn’t rule out a trade with an eastern team.

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