I chalk it up to vacation

I think blaze makes a great point. This looks a lot like Nonis is starting to really take over the entire team. He’s more conservative in his approach but pulls off trades still (and damn good ones). Burke still sticks his hand in the cookie jar though and stubbornly refuses to let Nonis institute some things: ie – long term contracts.

But I was pleasantly surprised about the discourse that came up here. Internet faith slightly restored.

… Articles on the mafia three times a week, that’d be something.

Mojo, thanks for the response, your position is much more clear now and I think our opinions are pretty close. I suppose the only issue I took with your original position was the nature of what Thomas said and why. As Steve correctly pointed out, I am a huge proponent of free speech.

To paraphrase a much greater man, though I hate what he says I would defend, with my life, his right to say it. My whole point was that we need to recognize that his sentiments reflect a hateful attitude directed towards a specific group. That I find abhorrent, and though I’m fine with him saying it, I’m not fine with people defending it or letting it slide.

Theses types of attitudes are negative in every way. Though, I do get where you coming from, Scott, with the balance and zen approach; however, I feel that there are certain things that need to be combated. There are plenty of political nuances that could be argued successfully from contradictory positions, but hatred of others is, IMO, always wrong, especially when the basis for the hate is an ascribes characteristic, like skin colour or sexuality.

Wu Wei may be interpreted as a form of pacifism through non-action. Though I consider myself to be a pacifist, there are certain things that I believe to be absolutely intolerable, and discrimination based on sexual orientation is absolutely one of those.

Also, something something hockey… uhh, contracts, Doan, BRIAN BURKE!!

I actually did read your post Joel, but unfortunately at 6am I didn’t do a well enough job to illustrate that in my response.

Allow me to elaborate. When I said that people were inherently good (hopefully), I was saying this because I do believe that our world is flushing out this kind of evil. And when i say that I with hold judgement on Tim its because his ignorance is the cause of his hate, possibly stemming from his upbringing… However i don’t believe this makes a bad person at the core, and he (or whomever) could still raise kids with good morals, who will be better than their parents.

Also I think the majority of people are in favour of gay marriage, so he’s in the minority. He’s in the minority, soon to be less with every generation, as we continue to evolve. The oppression if gay people will give them more reason to celebrate their triumphs. Experiencing lows will allow them to appreciate their highs… And yes I can always fall back on the Wu Wei, because that’s all it is baby.

Sorry guys, but I’m a glass half full kind of guy, so I don’t get worked up about the negatives, I know the positives will prevail. Having said that, it is important to have people like you who will speak out for what’s right…and you guys need the Tim Thomas’ of the world to speak out against. This is the harmony, its all necessary. As long as there are people there will be some kind of unfair advantages in society, and there will always be such debates.

Hopefully I was clearer and hopefully you can appreciate where i stand, I would for you to think I am in favour of hate, I’m not.

I like this meddling, interfering ownership conspiracy. I think there could be something to it. Maybe not 100% accurate, but to think that ownership is stepping in a little would make some sense. Why does Burke hate the deadline?

And ya, let’s move this to the Doan thread, getting a bit long here.

We dont draft CHL guys yet you’ve posted a nice little list. Toronto has drafted more Onatrio boys then nearly all teams in the league the last few seasons but yet you bitch still.

How is there any evidence at all that Burke avoids the CHL for fear of blue and white disease. When was the last time he even said blue and white disease, 2008??