Problems in the Flyers nets?

Bryzgalov: “I Have Zero Confidence In Myself”

Through the first 10 games of the season, it doesn’t look like $51 million well spent. Ilya Bryzgalov has allowed nine goals in a 24-hour span and an unfathomable 18 goals in his last four appearances. He has lost five straight and his biggest critic looks to be himself.

“I’m terrible and I want to apologize in front of the fans, in front of my teammates and I don’t know what’s going on,” said Bryzgalov. “I have no answer for you guys. I thought this last game in Montreal was — nothing’s gonna happen worse, but today was even worse.”

Bryzgalov came on in relief of Sergei Bobrovsky in a 5-1 deficit in the second period. The Flyers gave the puck away nine times in the game and allowed the Winnipeg Jets to camp out in front of the net for nine goals. The Flyers haven’t allowed nine goals at home since a game against the original Winnipeg Jets on Oct. 23, 1993 when they lost 9-6.

On Saturday there was a miscommunication between Bryzgalov and defenseman Braydon Coburn on who would take the puck in an exchange at the side of the net. It led to a St. Louis Blues goal. But these days, the goaltender says there are bigger problems.

“We didn’t have problems playing the puck on the ice. Not [Wednesday], not [Thursday],” said Bryzgalov. “I just can’t stop the puck. That’s it. It’s very simple. You can’t ask more from the forwards, they scored eight goals and we’re still losing. Obviously it’s terrible goalie. It’s me.”

As bad as Bryzgalov has looked on paper, three of the four goals he allowed were on slam-dunks when his defense couldn’t clear his crease. Mark Stuart’s goal to make it 8-7 Winnipeg was the only goal that Bryzgalov really should have had. His defenders aren’t willing to let the onus be exclusively on his shoulders.

29 Responses to Problems in the Flyers nets?

  1. LeafsNation4Ever says:

    That was a funny game. Watched parts of it after the Cardinals and Texas game.

  2. dumbassdoorman says:

    Ya everytime TSN put on a highlight i was like WTF is going on there, I figurwed for sure they must have just had cut out goalies in the nets

  3. alpalstewart says:

    i think alot of teams are gonna dread coming to Edm. this season.

    and what can you say about the bulin wall but WOW. again it was the kids tonight. eberle,hall and RNH. combined for 4 points, doesnt seem like alot does it, the thing is its every game and those = lots of points through the year.
     incase any1 was thinking sophmore jinx was gonna hit the oil, it has MPS is still pointless. but eberle hall and rnh have been phenominal. the way Hall is playing right now and should he take the oilers to the play-offs this year he might get a hart trophy. i'm not kidding so dont laugh, the oilers picked the right guy. not that seguin is any slouch or anything i just dont think he plays with the same intesity as hall. all the signs point to messier being reborn thru Hall. lol
    if you think the oil is playing over there heads right now well your right, and doing it without theyre 2 best players(hemsky)and (whitney).
    this is a play-off team right now, and its not looking like the oilers are urgently looking for a defensemen anymore because of the play of potter.
    who the Hell is Corey potter, this guy has been phenominal, for us and gives us a chance to wait till the trade deadline so we can get over value for hemsky and gags. 
    i'm still hearing that rumor about bogosian coming over here in a 3 way deal involving wpg, sand phx.
    to edm. bogosian
    to phx.  gagner
    to wpg.  turris
    these are just the players ive heard involved not sure if theyre are picks and or prospects involved too, my guess is yes theyre must be, because bogosian i think has more value than both of those guys. and gags has more value than turris.
  4. reinjosh says:

    No kidding. I think they are playing above their head but htey are playing damn well. It's all going to end when Bulin comes down to Earth though. I can't imagine he keeps this up for the season, much less half the season.

    And Potter is killing it.As is the ERH line. 
  5. reinjosh says:

    Maybe some of us weren't completely wrong about the Flyers? JVR hasn't exactly blown up yet, Bryzgalov has been downright terrible and a waste of money, and for all Schenn has done at the AHL level, he's been invisible at the NHL level. Plus Richards is killing it in LA.

    Granted Giroux's been great and Couturier has been a revelation and Carter hasn't helped the Blue Jackets much. 
    So so far both sides of this debate have been right…
  6. dumbassdoorman says:


  7. dumbassdoorman says:

    The worst part of strong teams playing as underacheivers is they get to restock with higher then expected picks.

  8. alpalstewart says:

    i would like to take the time to tell the sports writers to get it right. every book or article ive read before the season started had Brayden schenn winning the calder trophy, what a joke, nobody had rnh pebnciled in to even play the 9 games in edm. before being shipped to red deer.

    i dont know whats wrong with schenn, i wish i did. he just isnt adapting to the pro game, i think he looks frightened out there. he can kill it at every other lv.
    my thinking on him is he will be another gagner,turris type player that every1 over hyped coming into the nhl. and will be a 40-50 point guy. i just hope he can add sand paper to his game unlike gags and turris, then he becomes more valuable. and scott hartnell like. ive only been reading up on the guy so perhaps i got it all wrong about him, but i have seen 2 games he played in pre-season and he looked like a boy vs. men the games i saw
    this year the calder trophy will belong to RNH, and i'll predict now he plays a point a game pace the whole year. 
  9. alpalstewart says:

    think the flyers miss pronger much. lol

  10. dumbassdoorman says:

    While i thin RNH will have a very good year, I am not sure he will stay at a PPG pace. He is on the small side and like it or not I think he will wear down playing against larger, stronger opponents over 82 games. i do not say this to take anything away from him, just to be realistic. Nine games is not a whole season to be judged upon me thinks.

  11. Steven_Leafs says:

    It's true, especially now that he is guaranteed that job, his production will drop. I still think he will be a Calder Trophy Finalist but finishing with 40-50pts.

  12. alpalstewart says:

    as long as he stays on the line with eberle and hall, he will likely be close to a point per game, maybe 70 points. well thats what i'm hoping for outa him.

    Taylor Hall looks fantastic and fights for everything he gets. ive seen every game of theres this season and the Nuge definitely belongs and did you know he's added 10 pounds since training camp, he's working hard too and has proved he belongs with the big club.
    Eberle is the icing on the cake of that line. the sickest hands in the league perhaps.
  13. frankinboltonleafs says:

    Philly is tied for first in GF and tied for last in GA….they're in a better spot than I'd picked right now. I don't get that team at all. As an aside….Bryzgalov's post game comments rank as the best post game comments by any athlete in any sport ever that I can remember. That was great!!!

  14. lafleur10 says:

    alpalstewart eberle is the best pure goal scorer on that team! i also am a little biased though because i watched jordan here in regina with the pats! he was the best player in the western league and the best junior player in the world and is my favorite oiler(wish he was a hab) lol  jordan was an oilers fan growing up and dreamed of playing for them! i also think he's the teams best and most clutch player i also argued with a few leafs fans on here when they drafted kadri and him and ebbs played on the same world junior team i said he was far and away better than kadri in junior and would be twice the player that kadri will be in the nhlthey said i was wrong and that kadri ws better than taylor hall! i laughed at that and it looks like i was right as eberle will be a super scorer, a 40 goal 70-80 point man for the oilers ! he will be a joe mullen type scorer in the league and kadri will be lucky if he isn't a bust! it look like he is so far

  15. JoelLeafs says:

    I dunno, I still think it's early to discount Bryzgalov. I actually really respected his actions after the blowout loss. He's played and Anaheim and Phoenix, not exactly teams with the most fans or media coverage. He understand that Philly loves hockey and that he will need to address the media and fans on a regular basis. It is a bit disheartening to hear him exclaim that he has zero confidence in himself, but he showed a good deal of maturity by being so blunt and open. Maybe he motivates himself and comes back strong.

    I still think Philly is will be a top 5 team in the East come playoff time.

  16. reinjosh says:

    What about Hall? I'm pretty sure he has more natural goal scoring talent? Now I love Eberle, and he's going to be sick, but I think Hall has him beat in that regards.

    And why bring Kadri into it? How is he a bust too? He's improved every year and just because he isn't on the Leafs yet doesn't make him a bust. Eberle only made the NHL last year and Kadri was drafted the year after Eberle…
  17. reinjosh says:

    I liked his comments too but come on, the guy has 4 losses in 8 games he's been played. His GAA is 3.45 and his Save % is .870. I know its only 8 games but a goalie that just signed a long term deal worth 6 plus million a year has to be better than that. 

    I don't really think top 5 in the East will be that hard for them but they have issues for sure. This is far from the killer team everyone thought they would be.
  18. reinjosh says:
    I liked his comments too but come on, the guy has 4 losses in 8 games he's been played. His GAA is 3.45 and his Save % is .870. I know its only 8 games but a goalie that just signed a long term deal worth 6 plus million a year has to be better than that. 

    I don't really think top 5 in the East will be that hard for them but they have issues for sure. This is far from the killer team everyone thought they would be.
  19. reinjosh says:

    Weird team eh. They really aren't the elite team everyone expected but they are better than some of us expected. 

    Bryzgalov is a funny dude. I've always liked his post-game comments and the ones after that game were awesome. He's not one to hold back what thinks.
  20. JoelLeafs says:

    I've still got some faith in him. If his save percentage is still below .910 by X-mas, I'll concede.

    One thing's for sure, they're a fun team to watch.

  21. lafleur10 says:

    eberle is a better pure goal scorer than hall ,hall is a better all around player but eberle will be a joe mullen type clutch scorer like he is was in junior ad the world junior championship tournament. ebss is a great kid and will be a helluva palyer about kadri and eberle ,my point exactly kadri was drafted after him and he's on a worst team nd made it kadri has/had a chance to make  weak leafs tem and didn't and he was picked way before eberle in the draft,if eberle was a leafs pick he would've made that team all ready and would be 1 of the better young guys on the roster,so my point is kadri hasn't done it yet and might not  he's improving but not enough to secure a top 6 role on the leafs,as where eberle would have that's the difference!

  22. reinjosh says:

    Thats straw man logic lafleur. Kadri's been held out to develop his game, its different than him not making the team. 

  23. DannyLeafs says:

    I agree with that for the most part, but the main point will always be, anything other than a step forward was a major misstep. Philly may make the playoffs, but I don`t see them as a huge threat right now. Maybe with Pronger back they are more so, but how many good years does he have left I think they traded too much for the future considering they have bet so much on the present. Pronger and Bryzgalov will be eating up about 11 million in cap space for some time yet, and there is absolutely no relief coming for Pronger`s cap hit. If he retires they have to keep the hit, if the declines in ability, no team will trade for him.

    What if the Flyers are good for the next few years, but not great, then they have to sign guys like Schenn, Giroux, JVR, Voracek, Bobrovsky, and Couturier all at once, at at the same time likely have to replace some high end D. Could be tough.

    My biggest contention with these moves have always been that this team is going to need some major investment to get to the next level, whether that comes from big raises to players who break out, or adding pieces to replace aging vets, while their payroll is strutured in a way where they need to compete for the cup right now. Their window of opportunity from a talent stand point, and a payroll and contract standpoint, seem to be very mismatched in my opinion.

  24. DannyLeafs says:

    I am not so confident that RNH will be the Calder Trophy winner at year end. He may be the favourite right now, Luke Adam in Buffalo has been pretty close so far as well. He is bigger, stronger, a little more mature, and will get to play some considerable time with guys like Vanek, Roy, Pomminville, who are likely to produce all year long at pretty consistent paces. Adam has played against men before, and is more physically ready for an 82 game NHL season. I don`t care how talented RNH is, it`s hard to be consistent in an 82 game NHL season against men after coming from a 60 game OHL season against teenagers. Also, RNH`s line mates are also likely to hit some slumps and snags as they are also getting more used to the rigors of the NHL season. I just think Edmonton as a whole are more vulnerable then Buffalo, and that could give Adam a huge edge. It`s not as if I am predicting a guy that has been nowhere near RNH`s production to edge him out either, so far they each have 9 points in 10 games, while Adam has played about 3 less minutes a game. I think Adam will slowly increase his ice time, where I think RNH could see some decreases as he experiences some set backs.

    Another player that could throw a monkey wrench in the RNH calder party is Landeskog. He has 4 goals and 6 points in 10 games as well. He has been a plus player, and in all honesty I consider that to be a little unlucky. He has averaged over 4 shots on goal per game versus RNH`s 2. RNH has been great, but there is no way he can sustain his shooting percenage through the entire year, where as I see Landeskog increasing his shooting percentage. Also, Landeskog will again get to play with more experienced centers all year in Stastny and Duchene. Finally, being a winger allows him to play a simpler game, and not have to worry as much about the defensive end, allowing him to focus on scoring when the envitable dry spells occur. RNH could get a little bogged down (as many first year centers do) by some of his other responsibilities when every 4th shot of his is no longer going in.

    That`s not to say he won`t be a candidate, but some of the hype has been build aroudn the surprise that he is playing so well. I just personally think that he may still be the underdog to win it. Right now I think Adam has the best shot at sustained production, and I think Landeskog is also more likely to produce on an entire season.

    I will fully admit that part of this could be personal bias, being from St. John`s I would love to see Adam win the Calder, and I also part of it is that I wanted to point out how quietly great of a start to his rookie season he is having.

  25. DannyLeafs says:

    Part of it is development and contracts though. Kadri hasn`t made the Leafs because they don`t want him playing 13 minutes a night. Right now they want him playing wing. He actually was playing better than either Kulemin or MacArthur when he got sent down, but since both are making NHL salaries, and that line will be vital to any success the Leafs have this year, they need to let them try and work it out for a little longer. Kulemin is typically a slow starter, so right now he has the spot by default. Your logic is way off. Edmonton has had weaker forwards than Toronto, and Kadri is younger than Eberle. This means Kadri would have a more difficult time making Toronto`s roster then it would Edmonton`s. Edmonton has drafted first overall two years in a row for a reason.

    Kadri was drafted a year later then Eberle, and came to a team with more establisehd forwards, meaning it is harder to make the team. Also, if you think Eberle is going to be an amazing player, he isn`t necessarily a good measuring stick. It makes for even more flawed logic.

    Using your example as a premise, I could say, Gretzky was a Center, he is better than Crosby, therefore, Crosby is a bust. Yay logic.

    It makes more sense to use a direct comparable. I am not saying one doesn`t exist, but your rationale for using Eberle as measuring stick for Kadri`s failure doesn`t work what so ever.

  26. JoelLeafs says:

    If you were truly sorry, you would have rewritten the sentence. I'm sure we can forgive, however.

  27. JoelLeafs says:

    I love the random leafs hate you throw in. Here, I'll try: RNH is off to a good start, much like Pathes last year, but he'll probably slow down a bit, and Patches will be lucky to every play a full season, he is awful.

    That was fun!

  28. mapleleafsfan says:

    It's more like:

    "puck-dodging price is overrated he had one good season! the habs are screwed with gomez gionta and cammy! gomez is the worst contract in the league! the leafs have way better prospect pool habs best prospect is a second line center at best! phaneuf is the next chelios with maybe schenn as well being even better! kessel is the best scorer in the league i heard on tv they compared him to brett hull and u know what i think their right! i heard on tv that the leafs have the best prospects in the league and they know more than anyone on here!"
  29. mojo19 says:

    Within 2 years the Flyers will be trying to move Bryzgalov and his contract. Remember that.

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