You also only listed Lunqvist, Rinne, Quick and Thomas as the elite, neglecting Kipper, which I will assume was just an oversight.

Your the one who is nuts Mojo, a top 10 list is a personal preference for the most part. If it isn’t then you have to look at stats and accomplishments which makes your “Luongo is top 25-30 at best” argument really dumb.

At best I can give you these guys ahead of Luongo 100%:

Lunqvist
Rinne
Quick
Thomas (assuming he wasn’t retired)

Then these guys as most likely ahead of Luongo (depending how you look at it as they aren’t automatically better):

Fleury (hasn’t been better recently)
Price (hasn’t had the team so not really his fault)
Ward (has been kind of bad actually)
Backstrom (hasn’t done much for the Wild, even when they were good)
Halak (I would rank him higher but I can see why other would not)

So realistically Luongo should be in many top 10 lists, I can see him dropping out of many other list though as a organization like this is purely a preference thing.

Kuly and a 1st for Luongo isnt the right price.

Trading a prospect for Bernier is fine, trading their 1st for Bernier is not fine.

A front line young player…..like when they picked up Kessel 4 years ago, well including a 1st, is a risk, but much less of a risk than trading a 1st for a goalie.

Been there done that for Toronto. See Raycroft and Toskala.

Alot of success has to do with asset management. trading their 1st would be poor management. heck even taht rumor b4, trading Lupul….cause he may not re-sign, now for Luongo deal is poor asset management.

In that case i think Lupul….if he has a similar season as last….but Toronto doesn’t want to pay this guy 6.5 mil, well, hello trade deadline, hello highest bidder. that’s proper asset management.

The first as not like they were pre-lockout. I think they are worth a lot more.

You have to be pretty certain of a playoff spot, or guarantee pick 20-30 range before considering moving.

I think the unnecessary pressure, which this team has proven it cannot handle, would be brutal, like in 2010 when the Bruins landed Seguin. its cruel to do that to the players.

The team needs to be sensible. right now, Gillis is doing what’s best for his team asking for the moon. right now, including the 1st not just to get Lu but to rid themselves of Komisarek is not worth it.

To Burke, it may be, so he doesn’t humiliate Komisarek, burying in the minors, one of his handpicked guys. that could very well be his reasoning. but i rather keep komi on the roster, and play him, than to try and save cash that way.

Burke wasn’t born yesterday i hope. He’s made some huge blunders, but seriously he cannot be this idiotic. Thats something howson would do, or Don Waddell.

trading a 1st for say a Getzlaf or a Evander Kane, well that’s a different story.

He has better numbers than Pavelec, Fleury, Backstrom and comparable to War and Halak?

And he’s done it a hell of a lot longer than anyone of them.

And Brodeur is not a top goalie anymore. He hasn’t been better than Luongo since 2007-2008.