Second half of NHL season will be dandy MOVIN' ON OUT The NHL trade deadl

Second half of NHL season will be dandy

MOVIN’ ON OUT

The NHL trade deadline is March 3, just two days after play resumes following the Olympics. Always intriguing to watch are players bound for unrestricted free agency on teams out of the playoff hunt. These rental players are prime assets, as bottom-feeders try to stock up on futures, and contenders look for playoff depth without long-term obligation. Beyond Ilya Kovalchuk, some of the intriguing names potentially in that category are:

Slava Kozlov, Colby Armstrong and Pavel Kubina (Atlanta)

Saku Koivu (Anaheim)

Paul Kariya (St. Louis)

Ray Whitney, Matt Cullen (Carolina)

Jeff Halpern, Antero Niittymaki and Alex Tanguay (Tampa)

Martin Biron and Doug Weight (Islanders)

Raffi Torres (Columbus)

Steve Ott and Jere Lehtinen (Dallas)

Alexei Ponikarovsky, Matt Stajan, Lee Stempniak and Vesa Toskala (Toronto)

While some (such as Kozlov and Kariya) have no-trade clauses, it’s not unusual for a player to waive that right for a shot at a Stanley Cup.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/article/748438–second-half-of-nhl-season-will-be-dandy


64 Responses to Second half of NHL season will be dandy MOVIN' ON OUT The NHL trade deadl

  1. Bure96 says:

    Dustin Penner, Gilbet Brule, and Ales Hemsky (injured) are really the only safe players on the Oilers right now too. Sheldon Souray would be a big prize. Would go for a 1st rounder maybe, despite his average play this year. He still got 23 goals last year. That team has a whole lot of bottom 6 forwards, and 3rd pairing defenders available (including 5.5 million dollar player Shawn Horcoff …)

    Hey what about this trade.

    To Edmonton: Brian Campbell
    To Chicago: Shawn Horcoff

    Thoughts?

  2. habs79 says:

    I can't see why Chicago would even entertain that offer. Sure they would get $1.5 million in cap space but if they want to go that way they are better off trading Campbell for picks/prospects, or at least players with smaller contracts.

  3. Bure96 says:

    but nobody else would take Brian Campbell without a huge contracts going the other way … if they don't have other options (which they don't) then the trade would make sense.

  4. bbruins37 says:

    hey everyone how's kessel doing? ill bet he's still tearing it up because he's not a hot/cold player at all…

    hmm the canes are picking it up. thats going to leave only the oilers standing in the way of the leafs landing the top pick to select…oh, nevermind. well at least you landed a guy that only cares about money and who will be run out of town by all of you idiots.

    hall? seguin? fowler? who cares? these guys are all studs. i really like jack campbell though; maybe we should take him with our second first??? oh nevermind, tuukka rask. almost forgot. thank you for solidifying our goaltending for the future, leafs, along with everything else we'll ever need with these upcoming picks. i love how JFJ and burke are always looking out for the bruins best interests.

  5. number15 says:

    im expecting a fire sale from the Leafs. they got so many FAs coming up on the team. Leafs will likely trade most and go after newer FAs that are more in the Burke mold…… currently the forwards on the leafs r too soft for Brian Burke, well atleast all the upcoming FAs

    sadly though, they will only land a few 2nd rounders from playoff teams so dont expect any high picks.

    *** offseason is when the true work happens. I expect Burke to deal Tomas Kaberle at the draft when his NTC is waived for two months. Im expecting alot from that trade

  6. leafy says:

    Fire Ron Wilson!!! If we're going to lose, let's lose with someone who's not a paranoid a$$hole.

  7. Cut_one_for_Kordic says:

    EDM: Souray + 2nd (2011)
    CHI: Campbell + Versteeg

  8. habs79 says:

    Not really, why would they trade for a player that can't even be considered an upgrade over their current #2 center? Also on top of that a center with an inflated contract. It just makes no sense for Chicago. They are better off waiting at the deadline and seeing where a team like the Kings are. They can take a contract like Rob Scuderi and picks/prospects. That way they clear $3.7 million in cap, and the Kings only take on $3.7 million against the cap. The Kings also have around $8 million coming off the cap after the season.

     
  9. habs79 says:

    Why would Edmonton want to add another $2.6 million in salary when they have a lot of young players to sign to extensions and not much salary coming off the books this off season.

  10. Magleaf says:

    wow i havnt seen you since the leafs beat the bruins.  how have you been

  11. arigold says:

    Malkin only has 1 goal in his last 12 games, so what?  Good players are good players, they go through good and bad times just like anyone else.  Kessel is sick of doing it by himself.  He's the only skilled player on the team other than Kaberle.  Even if he scored 2 goals last night, the Leafs still lose that game.  If Burke can get him some help, he'll be just fine.  That help may not come anytime soon though.

    As for the draft picks, congrats.  Before this trade all the talk around the NHL was about how weak this upcoming draft is.  Then the Leafs trade a 1st rounder, and all of a sudden theres 30 Sidney Crosby's in the draft.  Thats a bit of Leaf hating going on.  Taylor Hall may very well be a good player, but he's no franchise player.  Thats assuming you get the 1st overall.  If we end up giving you the 4th or 5th pick, it'll probably end up being nothing.

  12. arigold says:

    Unfair dude.  If the Leafs were a quality team, and were still losing, then i'd say ok.  But seriously, with the exception of Kessel and Kaberle, this is a team of career 3rd liners.  Every team in the NHL has more pure talent than we do on the ice every night.  Talent can't be taught.  Sometimes players stop playing for a coach, but this isn't the case here.  These player simply aren't  good enough.  Pressures on Burke to overhaul this thing between now and next season.  Stajan, Poni, White, Mayers, Blake, these guys aren't winners.  They should be moved to teams where they can have reduced roles.  Its a big job ahead of the Leafs, but i'd hate to blame Ron Wilson for their performance.  You can't teach talent.

  13. cam7777 says:

    Campbell won't be traded until after the season.  He isn't worth any significant player in return, because his contract is that bad.  LA has absolutely no interest in letting Campbell eat up a chunk of their defensive cap space.  They have two Olympians, a cup winner, and a veteran back there as is, and two very solid prospects coming up (Hickey and Teubert).  Take on Campbell, and they'd be in Chicago's exact position a year or two from now.

    He'll be traded for a usesless player that can be dumped in the minors, or bought out at a relatively minor fee, and even at that, Chicago will likely have to tag on a decent draft pick, or a decent young RFA, or both.  I think they would only trade Campbell if it meant they could save nearly the full dollar amount of his contract, because that would mean keeping 2 or 3 of Sharp, Versteeg, Ladd, Byfuglien, Barker and Bolland.

  14. cam7777 says:

    I think White is a winner, but otherwise I agree with you.  White is one of the only players on the team visibly angry by all the losing. 

  15. cam7777 says:

    To Everyone Suggesting Brian Campbell Trades:

    1.) Campbell will not be traded until after the playoffs

    2.) Campbell is worth less than nothing

    3.) Chicago will in all likelihood have to compensate a team to take Campbell's contract.

    4.) I wouldn't be surprized to see the other GM's wait out Bowman, and try to force him to July 1st as is (over the cap by 4 million dollars and unable to send out qualifying offers).  After that, Bowman would still have to trade away several of Campbell, Barker, Sharp, Versteeg, Byfuglien, Bolland, but someone will have been able to add the RFA's turned UFA's in Hjalmarsson, Niemi, Fraser, Eager, Hendry, Ladd and Burrish – at no cost.

  16. cam7777 says:

    ….rrrright.  The Leafs haven't been in this position every year for the past 3 years (nearly last at early-mid January).  Oh wait, they have.  They'll still crawl up above the bottom 5, remarkably.  You fail to account for the fact that Edmonton, Carolina, and probably about 5 other teams are going to throw up their arms and try to tank the season when they realize they are definitely out of it.  Star players will sit out when they have a headache, and injuries will drag on longer than necessary, and the Leafs will sit where they always do – 6th-12th.

  17. DandoEagle says:

    Moves you will see at the deadline – take these checks and cash em now!

    To Washington: Kovalchuck
    To Atlanta: Karl Alzner, Alex Semin, 1st pick in '10, Stefan Dellarovere

    To Pittsburgh: Teemu Selanne, Saku Koivu
    To Anaheim: Caputi, Michael Rupp, 2nd in 2010

    To Montreal: Sheldon Souray
    To Edmonton: Roman Hamrlik

    To Toronto: 2nd Round pick in 2010
    To Rangers: Ponikarovsky

    To Buffalo: Lee Stempniak
    To Toronto: Future considerations

    To the Toronto Marlies: Vesa Toskala
    To the Toronto Maple Leafs: Joey MacDonald LOL!

  18. leafy says:

    My beef with Wilson has little to do with his coaching.

  19. TheLeafNation91 says:

    I like your Toskala trade!!

  20. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Okay…Could Tomas Kaberle fetch a Chris Pronger type-deal…Or was Philadelphia just high when they made the deal

  21. habs79 says:

    My main points was that there are better options out there than Shawn Horcoff.

  22. the_word says:

    And when the next coach loses 5 of 7 we'll fire him, then the guy after that and after that…. MLSE will love paying 5 million a year for a terminated coach.

  23. habs79 says:

    That is a good offer for Kovalchuck, but I don't see why Washington would make it. They don't seem to need an offensive boost. That is a big chunk of their future to give up for someone that could be a rental.

    Why would Pittsburgh want Koivu? As a fourth line center.
    If Edmonton trades Souray, they are going to want picks and/or prospects. Not a 35 year old defenceman.
  24. bbruins37 says:

    he has 3. oh yeah and he's also a player that can pass the puck and who doesnt shoot from anywhere on the ice. he has 7 assists in his last 12 and 5 in his last 3.

    ive said it all along. kessel is hot and cold. its only a matter of time before the toronto media tears him apart.

    when has this draft ever been pegged as weak? youre thinking of next year. and hall not a franchise player? what are you smoking? this is a guy that some people said would have been picked over tavares last year. 4th or 5th? that would be great as well. you obviously have no idea about any of the players in this draft.

  25. bbruins37 says:

    haha i guess you could base this team on a team from 3 years ago. good job

  26. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Kessel is not playing poorly because he is hot and cold…Problem is not enough talent around him and the fact that he did not participate in pre-season training…How many players do you know that comes in mid-season and actually does well??

  27. leafy says:

    Why not? They're paying Finger millions just to sit around with his thumb up his ass.  What's another few million?

  28. bbruins37 says:

    what are you talking about? kessel came in on fire. now he's ice cold. hence, hot and cold.

  29. cam7777 says:

    Well, the last three years it's been the same result.  THis team follows patterns, and I'm not too concerned.  They'll come out of this slump like they always do.  THose around them will start tanking, and teams at the top will start resting some of their vets under the assurance of having already made the playoffs, and the Leafs will squeek out of the lotto area – like always, not just 3 years ago you tool.

  30. cam7777 says:

    especially a 35 year old who is much worse than Souray, and costs almost the same.

    Koivu and Selanne will be a package deal I think.

  31. cam7777 says:

    Only your last one makes any sense.  Stempniak is worth much more than future considerations you knob.  Chipchura went for a 4th.  Chipchura couldn't wash Stempniak's jock strap.  Here are some more realistic scenarios for these players:

    —Kovalchuk—

    To BOS: Kovalchuk, Afinogenov 
    To ATL: Wheeler, Stuart, 1st in 2010 (TOR)

    To LAK: Kovalchuk, Afinogenov
    To ATL: Brown, Moller, 1st in 2010 (LAK)

    To CHI: Kovalchuk, Afinogenov
    To ATL: Versteeg, Barker, 1st in 2010, 2nd in 2011, 3rd in 2010

    To PHI: Kovalchuk, Afinogenov
    To ATL: VanRiemsdyk, Coburn, 1st in 2011

    —The Others—

    To PIT: Selanne, Koivu
    To ANA: Tangradi, 3rd in 2010

    To WSH: Souray
    To EDM: Della Rovere, Fehr, 1st in 2010, 3rd in 2011

    To NJD: Stempniak, Frogren
    To TOR: 2nd in 2010

    To ATL: Ponikarovsky
    To TOR: 2nd in 2010, conditional in 2011*

    *3rd round pick if Ponikarovsky resigns

    -Toskala waived, and claimed on re-entry waivers by the Kings.
    -MacDonald called up in relief of Toskala.

  32. cam7777 says:

    Don't cream your panties just yet there, moron.  If you haven't noticed, Hall is pretty much a Canadian replica of Kessel.  If Kessel isn't a franchise player, than neither is Hall.  Of course, both of these guys could be franchise quality, but not until you surround them with the correct pieces. 

    Bob McKenzie is among the only people who thinks that Hall is better than Tavares, and in case it has escaped your vast knowledge, Bob McKenzie is an idiot.  The main scouting agencies rank the most recent number one overalls in the following order: 1.) Stamkos, 2.) Tavares, 3.) Hall. 

    So even if the Leafs somehow manage to play worse than the other teams who will be actively trying to tank, and they somehow finish in the bottom five, and they somehow win the lottery and the Bruins select Taylor Hall, well then, congratulations, you just drafted Kessel 2.0, and in 3 years we can talk about how Hall is hot/cold and all that rubbish.

    It's all irrelevent anyways, cuz Chiarelli is going to blow his load to get Kovalchuk, and the pick will end up in Atlanta alongside Wheeler and something else.  That pick will be the trump card that allows him to beat out LA, Philly, Chicago and Vancouver in the sweepstakes.  Post-Kovalchuk, Atlanta will tank, and end up drafting Hall themselves, and use the Leafs 7th overall to draft Kirill Kabanov, and a core of Kane, Little, Antropov, Hall, Kabanov, Wheeler, Armstrong and Peverley will develop out of Atlanta for the next 5 years.

  33. Kramer says:

    The Leafs need more fighters.

  34. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    No. Tomas "baby face" Kaberle couldn't come close to fetching what pronger got.

    Sure Kaberle is a good d-man, but Pronger is a winner. Hart Trophy, Norris, Stanley Cup, Olympics, etc. Kaberle's only trophy is likely a league championship trophy that he won when he was in novice.

    Pronger is just as good on offense as Kaberle, And unlike Kaberle who only body checks when he catches an edge and falls into the opposing player, Pronger is a mean, dirty m*ther that isn't afraid to mix it up.

    The only thing kaberle has going is he's 4yrs younger. The whole cheap contract thing is bs because he's only cheap for next year and then will likely go to the highest bidder.

    So in short, Pronger>>>>>>>>>>>>Kaberle.

  35. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Pronger is 35…

  36. TheLeafNation91 says:

    He came in on fire because he havent played in months…Now he is fatigied…Hence, the no pre-season training has really affected his endurance

  37. Kramer says:

    This is how hockey should be played. Good old fashioned brouhaha. The Russians got it down pat. The NHL needs more bench clearing brawls.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wscrxQcChog

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmkLYkQ0_Nk

  38. the_word says:

    Because there isn't a significantly better coach available.

  39. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    "The only thing kaberle has going is he's 4yrs younger. The whole cheap contract thing is bs because he's only cheap for next year and then will likely go to the highest bidder."

    Did you read the bolded part? Pronger (35) – Kaberle (31) = 4yrs

    I get that pronger is 35, but he's still a better defensman at that age than Kaberle is at 31.

    Pronger (35) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaberle (31)

  40. cam7777 says:

    Yes, but you could argue that what Philadelphia gave up was not that significant.  Lupul was a salary dump, and they were going to dump him regardless.  THe firsts were both projected to be 25th-30th overall, and rather insignificant for a team that boasted Richards, Carter, VanRiemsdyk, Giroux, Hartnell, Gagne, Pronger, Timonen, Carle, Coburn, and a host of solid depth players.  At the time, Sbisa was probably the most significant piece of that deal.

    The Leafs could probably net a similar package – salary dump, plus wasted prospect, plus a 1st.  The difference is they wouldn't get a 2nd first thrown in.  I don't think that's what Burke will look for in a Kaberle deal though.  He's going to be looking to swap Kaberle straight up for a solid young player, or proven top six forward.  So the question is really irrelevent, because the two teams are looking for different things.  Anaheim was already strong at every position with or without Pronger, and so the futures were more important.

    Further, while it's impossible to argue against your Pronger > Kaberel argument, I would say that with their current contracts, I'd much rather trade for Kaberle than Pronger.  The NHL ruled that Pronger's extension will not be subject to the "sign before 35 and when you retire your cap hit is removed from the team".  If Pronger retires before 43, 5 million dollars will be on the cap for every year he doesn't play.  THat's a huge chunk of cap for nothing.  I realize this wasn't the case when Pronger was traded, but since then, Pronger has signed a stupid contract, and Kaberle has become the league leader in points by a defensemen (and 2nd only to Lidstrom since the lockout).  Their values now are pretty even I would say….

  41. the_word says:

    That's sound logic, then Andrew Raycorft > Carey Price because Raycorft has a ROY trophy.

  42. the_word says:

    How about some perspective here… Back in Pronger's prime when he wanted out of Edmonton, the deal was Thomas Kaberle (entering his prime) and Alexander Steen (a nothing player that was overrated by JFJ).

    So to suggest that Kaberle and Pronger aren't in the same league in terms of trade value is asinine.

  43. leafshockey says:

    I know I'm gonna sound ridiculous, and stupid, and I'm probably gonna get ripped for this, but am I the only guy who sees Phil Kessel trying extremely hard to help get the team and himself out of this slump? I know he'll never backcheck to his full potential, or block tons of shots, or try crank somebody, but I really do think he is trying hard. Anybody else?

  44. TheLeafNation91 says:

    I think he is…And will play better next year. His fatigue is evident as he was just thrown into the season and did not do the necessary pre-training as most player do. He'll be fine next year

  45. leafshockey says:

    I absolutely agree, but I have one more thought. They said on HNIC that Kessel shouldn't be bringing the puck up the ice. Now I think there are two sides to that. Yes, he does have only two moves, both with a very low success rate, but on the other hand, he's the only guy with the talent level he does. So, with this, and the thought going around that maybe Kessel shouldn't be the guy rushing with the puck, how about putting him with Grabo when he gets back? Either they take away Grabo, leaving Kessel more open, or they cover Kessel, in which Grabo has more space. Thoughts???

  46. leafy says:

    If there's one thing I can't stand, it's logic.

  47. leafy says:

    Absolutely, and that's why the Kessel trade was a bad move from the get-go. What is the point in mortgaging two high first round picks to land a star sniper if he's going to be playing by himself?

  48. cam7777 says:

    For whatever reason, Wilson has avoided this combination at all costs.  Not sure what the big deal is about it, but he must have some reason for sticking to his guns.  My hope is that Grabovski makes it back in time for the Olympics and then is immediatey traded upon the season resuming.

  49. cam7777 says:

    Exactly.  And since then, some of the flaws in Pronger's game have become more evident (draws penalties, not great in the dressing room, getting on, offense decreasing – or it was last year when he was traded), and Kaberle has returned to a place atop the scoring of defensemen.  With Kaberle, his defensive woes were always pretty well do*****ented.  On an offenisve powerhouse though, he would have a lot less defending to do….

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