Should Habs go after a new D?

At the end of HNIC on Saturday night, Ron McLean suggested Gainey may be going after one of:

Bryan Berard

Sean Hill

Sergei Gonchar

Now I believe he may have gotten this info from some Pat Hickey ramblings in the Gazette, but what are your thoughts on these guys?

Berard: he’s not defence-oriented enough for the Habs’ needs right now.

Hill: I like Hill. +/- not great this year, but he’s playing for Carolina. Be nice to see him back.

Gonchar: Who wouldn’t want this guy on their team…but would he be worth the price? I expect the caps would want youth AND picks in return, something along the lines of Hossa, Hainsey and a 1st round pick.

The Habs do have depth in the minors, so I think they could afford the Gonchar trade, but I think his contract is up after next year, so big money would need to be paid out to keep him beyond that. Which means if there is no season, you’re picking him up for 20 games + post season and then could lose him to UFA.

Hill would be the cheapest deal and a good fit on the blueline. I don’t recall if he played, but I recall he was with the team in ’93. Maybe a little karma involved…


20 Responses to Should Habs go after a new D?

  1. Lint07 says:

    I’d definately give Hainsey, Hossa and a 1st for Gonchar. No doubt about it.

    as for who they will really go for…

    I say try and get either Sean Hill or Denis Gauthier.

    Berard isn’t reliable enough defensively for our needs right now. Hill would be a great assett in the playoffs and Gauthier would become quickly a fan favorite because of his highlight reel hits and the fact that he is a francophone.

    Hill = Playoff rental

    Gauthier = preparing for the future

    I can already picture Gauthier and Komisarek punishing away players in our zone.

    We have to remember that we have almost no shot at the cup this year (note the ”almost” as I strongly believe that any team has a fair shot when the playoffs start. It becomes an all new season) so I say don’t go for expensive playoff rentals for nothing.

    However, I wouldn’t mind if Gainey acquires a player that can help us using any of those players: Perreault, Rivet, Hainsey, Hossa, Bulis, Kilger, Dackell, Traverse, Dykhuis, Juneau.

    If any player not on this list is traded, Gainey better get something really good for the said player.

  2. HabsNick says:

    La Presse reports that the general mood in the Habs’ locker room and front office is that a trade is coming up soon.

    They write that Gainey would love to get his hands on Craig Conroy but Calgary would be unwilling to trade him unless they slump real bad and miss the playoffs. They also write that the Smyth rumor is unlikely to happen. (damn!)

    They’re looking for a left-handed D so that rules out Boughner… i like all three you’re proposing and it seems not completely impossible that Gainey might make a pitch for Gonchar but the competition is fierce in that regard so it might cost us wayyy more than the team is willing to give for him (probably Bulis, Hossa, Hainsey and a pick, ouch).

    Sean Hill would make an excellent playoff rental, i’d say he’s the best choice. Gonchar would be way too expensive, i’d rather the Habs spread out their trading chips to shore up all their holes instead of just making one blockbuster.

  3. HabsNick says:

    La Presse reports that the general mood in the Habs’ locker room and front office is that a trade is coming up soon.

    They write that Gainey would love to get his hands on Craig Conroy but Calgary would be unwilling to trade him unless they slump real bad and miss the playoffs. They also write that the Smyth rumor is unlikely to happen. (damn!)

    They’re looking for a left-handed D so that rules out Boughner… i like all three you’re proposing and it seems not completely impossible that Gainey might make a pitch for Gonchar but the competition is fierce in that regard so it might cost us wayyy more than the team is willing to give for him (probably Bulis, Hossa, Hainsey and a pick, ouch).

    Sean Hill would make an excellent playoff rental, i’d say he’s the best choice. Gonchar would be way too expensive, i’d rather the Habs spread out their trading chips to shore up all their holes instead of just making one blockbuster.

  4. kingbobert says:

    I dont think defense is the biggest issue right now. Komaserik, bouillon, souray, brisbois and quintal are doing good…Rivet how ever get rid of get Gauthier.

    Whats more important for the habs is to get some size up front. We need someone who can hit and score upfront ala cole or oneil, and then we need a goon to play with begin and langdon. Laracque would of been good except he’s said that if he gets traded eh wouldnt drop the gloves for his new team. Personally i want BARNABY. Begin is like Barnaby, gets under your skin real good and everytime you look behind you you have him on your back chassing you…

    Also we need to think this is juneaus last year, begin will move to the 3rd line and we’ll need another center.

  5. Habfanforever says:

    Hab fans may be getting used to actions of unexperienced GM’s. The fact of the matter is, Gainey has not yet moved this year (aside from the pre-season waiver acquirements in Langdon, Dagenais and Begin) and Gainey is really able to pull off a Gonchar deal. Hainsey, Hossa and a 1st pick for Gonchar is very realistic but Gainey would have to get approval from Gillet in order to resign him for next year. I truly think that Gonchar would help Markov get more into his “A” game. If that happens, they could head into the playoffs with Souray back, Markov and gonchar. That’s 3 quality d-men that other teams have to worry about on the PP.

  6. Lint07 says:

    I want Ryan Smyth goddammit!

    we’d have to give up Komisarek who is a favorite of Kevin Lowe (which won’t happen anytime soon) in order to get Smyth.

    Ryan Smyth is definately the answer to our grit problems upfront on the wing. He is a perfect fit. Bob Gainey should do whatever it takes to get him.

    I’d be ready to give up Hainsey, Hossa & a pick for him.

    With Smyth & a reliable defensive d-men added before the playoffs, I really like our chances to get past the first round.

  7. Killa_Bs says:

    A player like Gonchar would be a great acquisition for any team. However, I think he might be too expensive for some team. Montreal is on their way up. They got great young players and some really interesting prospects. To get Gonchar to Montreal would surely mean that some of these prospects would head the other way – to a Washington team that is beginning to rebuild.

    A player that I would like for Montreal is Ron Francis. A reliable centerman and also a seasoned veteran with tons of experience. I think Montreal could go far in the playoffs if they can get the right mix in time for the playoffs. I am not sure that Gonchar would be worth getting.

  8. DohCanada says:

    I dont think defense is the biggest issue right now. Komaserik, bouillon, souray, brisbois and quintal are doing good…

    In case you weren’t aware, Souray is out for 6 weeks with a sprained ACL. The Habs haven’t played well the past 3 games without him. The need a D now. Personally, I’d like to see Hainsey fill the void (if he can). If he could fill in at least somewhat successfully, that would raise his level of confidence considerably!

  9. kidhenry1 says:

    The Habs should make a deal for Hill. The main reasons are that:

    a) The Islanders tied Montreal with their tie against Los Angeles today. They currently both sit 7 points behind the Devils. That is the difference between playing the Flyers, Senators or Lightning. The matchup is critical.

    b) Gonchar is not worth what it will cost to get him. He isn’t the most defensively sound player on the ice, and offense from the D corp is not a huge priority. Hill is a more solid defender.

  10. wingerxx says:

    Any team that wants an offensive defenseman needs to take a serious look at Berard. It probably wouldn’t take much to get him either. Considering that he is technically their number 3 defenseman (behind Dempsey and Poapst), his numbers are spectacular. Plus, he is a competitor, which always helps in the playoffs.

    I wouldn’t be too quick to grab Sean Hill…I think we all remember what happened when he went to St. Louis, for a pretty good team there. His play disintegrated. I’d take him, but I wouldn’t give up much at all for him.

    Gonchar…he’s going to help your power play with that shot of his, and he can give you 25+ minutes per night…but he’s not the answer for a team like Toronto. With the CBA agreement running out this summer, and the fact that defense is what matters in the playoffs…I’d much rather take a good, solid all-around defender than a guy like Gonchar. He has good offensive gifts, but he doesn’t belong on the first PK unit of any team in this league. You never know who will get him though.

  11. afanofthelakings says:

    Souray is out for minimum 6 weeks, so for sure we need defense …

    But the player that the Canadiens need isn,t really that big d-Man like Hill or Gonchar

    Of course, maybe we’ll need one, but not right now

    What Canadiens needs ??? A big tought guy, not a Darren Langdon or a Gordie Dwyer …

    They need a guy like Chris Simon or Donald Brashear or Jody Shelley

    Langdon isn’t one of the tought in the NHL

    The Canadiens need that big guy that is able to skate and hit.

    The Canadiens are now better in Shorthandded position so they can afford a big penalty minute guy

    a guy like : Peter Worrell, Jim Cummins, Rob Ray, Andrew Peters, Kryztof Oliwa, Eric Cairns or Mike Johnson

    or if they want to slove the two problems at the same time : Garnett Exelby, a d-man, he is big, he fights very well (He had already put Langdon KO) he would be a great acquisition for the CH

    For the D-Man problem, Sean Hill would be great, or matbe Jason Smith

    Would Gainey try to do the big trade, to get Smyth and Smith in the same deal ???

  12. gr8haluschak says:

    Why don’t you get Pronger like that idiot, I know there are many, leaf fan said.

  13. HabsNick says:

    An interesting possible acquisition for the Habs would be Andre Roy in Tampa, he would probably be rather easy to get, and he plays a reasonably sound two-way game for an enforcer. Another possible good acquisition would be Tyler Wright out of Colombus, which isnt entirely unlikely.

    I’d love to get Smyth, but not at the price of Komisarek, i’d see just about anyone else go, but not Komi. Jeff O’Neill could work, but i’d rather have Smyth. I’d forget Gonchar, way too expensive trade for the Habs, they’d get hosed.

  14. kingbobert says:

    Gonchar does not fit in with mtl, gainey was to rebuilt the team with youth. Gainey wants to have young players that will play together for a couple of years and get chemestry and become unstopable just like in his days where the guys would play together for years.

    I think fo D go after gauthier….berard is awsome but too offensive for montreal…let markov do what he wa doing last year and souray do what he does from the blue line and you got enough offense from the D….dont forget bouillons blazing speed either…his offensive capabilities are under rated…

    I like langdon…not the fastest guy out there but he’s a safe player….he plays good with Begin…again i’ll repeat team them with barnaby and you got a line…

    your first 2 lines are pretty good…

    now for ur third line…look you need a center to play with sundstrom and ward…sundstrom and ward could score…give them a guy like oneil and they will

    as far as ppl not doing good in the firt 2 lines…belaj, gratton, perezoghin are all there eager to play…

    Players i would trade: Hossa, Rivet, Dykhius, Dackell, Juneau(cause he’s retiring), traverse, dwyer, pereault

  15. rojoke says:

    “The Canadiens are now better in Shorthandded position…”

    Yeah, that’s why they’re currently 22nd in penalty killing. Try again.

    As for the other guys you listed, Cummins was in Montreal at one time, and they cut him lose. Worrell isn’t leaving Colorado anytime soon, unless Lacroix can get a back-up goalie in return. Ray just signed with Ottawa, so you can scratch him off the list too.

    So, here’s my personal trade list, for your critique, of course.

    Denis Gauthier, Brad Ference, Ryan Smyth, Jason Smith, Aaron Miller.

  16. wheresthesoda says:

    the way the habs are playing now and how good buffalo has been the habs just have to make sure they get in the playoffs. buffalo and the islanders are both hot, and islanders are tied with the habs, buffalo just getting closer and closer.

  17. OldNord says:

    Langdon is doing an excellent job as fighter, very methodical. You should watching the games sometimes.

  18. afanofthelakings says:

    Sorry, I’d made the mistake, they are now better in PowerPlay

    But last year they were one of the worst team in penalty killing, so passing from 28th to 22nd, is an improvment

    And I didn’t say that I want them to get Cummins, Worrell or Ray, they were example…

    The guy I want them to get is Garnett Exelby from the Atlanta Thrashers, and on that fact I made an other error, it was Gordie Dwyer that have been but KO by Exelby

  19. afanofthelakings says:

    Andre Roy fits well in what I was talking, he’s able to fight an hit very well, but he’s also a good player.

    Good sight !

  20. AxisofEvil says:

    Buffalo is 4 points back of Montreal and the Islanders as of Tuesday morning, and have won 8 out of 10. Look out Montreal

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