So who’s next to leave?

For a team not rebuilding, the Flames are certainly making a lot of changes.

Since last season ended, the following veterans have been sent packing in various ways: Robyn Regehr, Ales Kotalik, Steve Staios, Fredrik Modin, Adam Pardy, Daymond Langkow, Raitis Ivanans and Niklas Hagman, who Monday was claimed by the Anaheim Ducks off re-entry waivers.

Matt Stajan has been a healthy scratch the past couple of games and has become a very expensive fourth-line centre, but it may be tough to find someone to take on his US$3.5 million cap hit.

Rene Bourque’s name has been in the trade rumours for several weeks.

It’s hard to guess who will be next, but rest assured GM Jay Feaster is working the phones and will continue to talk to his counterparts at the GM meetings.

http://www.calgarysun.com/2011/11/14/flames-5-burning-questions


22 Responses to So who’s next to leave?

  1. albertateams says:

    I doubt much changes until closer to the trade deadline. Unless a really good deal comes along that the organization can't pass on. I think anybody is available for the right price but I don't see a lot of movement happening. I really hope that Feaster doesn't make a move just for the sake of a change. The Flames should wait to the deadline when teams are more likely to overpay.

    Modest returns for expiring contracts could be attained at the deadline for guys like Jackman, Kostopolous, Stempniak, Moss, Morrison, Hannan and Sarich as teams look to fill depth and make injury replacements. It would at least add some mid to late round picks or depth prospects and would allow the organization to bring up guys like Bouma and Nemizs to see where they might fit long term and where.

  2. Tachmo says:

    From a non Flames fan chiming in here, Darryl Sutter ruined the team, and looking at this team realistically, they have little chance of competing for a Stanley Cup. It would be wise to rebuild the team. Iginla is the key here, he is the cog that many teams would need to put them over the edge, he is a beast in the playoffs. He should be traded at the deadline for a package of picks and prospects. Someone will pay the farm for him.

    The reason I say that, he is Calgary's only real true asset. That asset will or maybe in decline already. They need to maximize return for the future. 

  3. reinjosh says:

    He's not in decline. He's a notorious slow starter and much of that this year cna be contributed to a very bad team. He started slow last year and ended up 5th in scoring. Not on the decline. I digress.

    There are other assets. Bourque, Tanguay plus Jokinen, Bouwmeester all have varying levels of value with Bourque's being the highest of the bunch. Iggy is the most valuable but also likely won't leave. This team could build around him still and be fine for it. One year turn arounds are possible and I think they could work it in here. Trade Kipper, Bourque and rack up some picks for the next season. Grab someone high like Galchenyuk and spend some of that cap space on an impact guy. It can be done.
  4. dumbassdoorman says:

    Nah, at 35ish you start to decline, but that doesn't mean he still isn't an impact player or can be. kipper is a good asset as well.

  5. MystifoLeafs says:

    Yeah because Selanne declined at 35, Lidstrom declined at 35, Tim Thomas declined at 35, St.Louis declined at 35. Need I add more?

  6. JoelLeafs says:

    Yeah, the other several thousand players that did decline.

    I know someone that got hit by a bus and survived, therefore everyone hit by a bus survives.
  7. FlamingHomer says:

    From a Flames fan to a non-Flames fan, I have to agree with most of what you said. I wish it wasn't true, but sometimes you have to face reality.

  8. dumbassdoorman says:

    You are right, but do any of those guys suffer from bad backs? were the supporting casts those guys had as bad as Iggys? do any of them play nearly the physical game he does to increase the wear on the body?

  9. FlamingHomer says:

    I'd like to see Jackman and Hannan finish the season here. Going forward, I think we could replace Hannan next season but I really like Jackman's game. He's been a great replacement for Nystrom.
    The others you mentioned I could live without quite easily.

  10. dumbassdoorman says:

    lol….which non flames fan?

  11. Tachmo says:

    Kipper and Bourque are tradable assets, maybe Tanguay. I don't think anyone wants Jokinen, cmon? Bouwmeester makes too much, his value is low, but has good skills. Iggy is getting older no one can deny that. He very well could have a few good years left in the tank, I'm not denying that. Blow it up and trade Iggy. 

  12. reinjosh says:

    Of course Jokinen is an asset. He won't get anything amazing but he has solid value. He isn't the 70 plus point center he was on the Panthers but he's a solid 50 pointer with size. Those don't exactly come along often these days and a I would bet good money that Feaster could get a 2nd pretty easily for him at the deadline. Jason Arnott got a decent prospect and a 2nd and Jokinen is the better player at this point (albeit with less leadership). Dominic Moore was traded for a 2nd. Need I go on? Jokinen is easily a tradeable asset. 

    Bouwmeester could get a decent price. He's one of the Beauchemin cases where all it takes is a team needing a specific player to trade for him. New York Islanders anyone? 
    Iggy doesn't need to get traded and honestly won't get traded. I'm for it personally but at the end of the day he gets the choice on what to do and he and management have made it pretty clear they don't want to move him. 
    This team could quite easily move forward with him and be fine. Grab Galchenyuk or Grigorenko and they could pair with Iggy pretty damn well. You could have yourself a reversal of the Stamkos-St Louis tandem. 

  13. reinjosh says:

    There replaceable though. They are nice but if they have value to other teams you pull the trigger. Those aren't the type of players you keep around if you have an offer for them. At least in my opinion. 

  14. MystifoLeafs says:

    yes Joel some do decline but my point was that most great players find a way to produce even past the age of 35. I just hate how everyone doubts Iggy can do it.

  15. FlamingHomer says:

    The one who stated in his opening comment that he was a non-Flames fan. (Tachmo)

  16. thisgamewelose says:

    The problem with Jokinen is you never know when he's going to show up.  Trading a 2nd for the Jokinen that actually shows up is a steal, but trading a 2nd for guy who floats around, not so much. 

  17. albertateams says:

    Exactly. I'm not suggesting we give away guys like Jackman and Hannan, but if a decent return is available they have to be moved.

  18. albertateams says:

    Jokinen, could certainly be moved for a 2nd + a prospect, he's been the flames most complete forward this year. Big role playing centermen at the deadline always receive an overpayment.

  19. mojo19 says:

    Rod Brind'Amour, Mats Sundin. Lots of these big athletic greats were capable of maintaining that PPG avg past the age of 35. Iginla is another one of them. He always starts slow, he'll be up over 70 points this year for sure, maybe up over 80.

  20. FlamingHomer says:

    For the money, you aren't going to get a better player for them in a trade. Hannan is the only Flame who is hitting at all right now and is very responsible in his own end. He may be worth a 6th round pick to another team so I say we might as well finish the year with him.
    The same can be said for Jackman. You aren't going to get a 30 goal a year guy for him and he brings it every night so again, he can keep playing on my team until he loses his edge.

  21. JoelLeafs says:

    I'm not arguing with that fact; however, the Selanne's and Lidstrom's of the world are the exception, and there is no steadfast formula that can predict whether or not Igninla will continue to be dominant past 35. Again, I don't doubt he could do it, I simply have a problem assuming he will. 

  22. albertateams says:

    I wouldn't want players back. Best pick available at the draft. Guys like Jackman and Hannan can be found as free agents why not translate them into some assets. At the deadline teams tend to over pay, maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick could be squeezed out of a team. 

    If we were in playoff chase them sure hang on them but I don't see that happening.

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