Speculation from Sun Media

Lance Hornby of Sun Media provides a ton of free agent speculation in his morning article. One of the biggest tid bits that he discusses is the fact that the Leafs are likely to focus their attention on younger free agents in a bid to replace Mats Sundin who will be exploring options from many other teams.

It is mentioned that the Montreal Canadiens were so interested in Sundin that they apparently offered him a two year deal worth 8 million per season.

It is noted that the Leafs will have around 15 million to spend on unrestricted free agents however at the same time is it also noted that it may be a little difficult to sell Toronto to players with the recent changes that have taken place and the impending / speculated loss of Mats Sundin.

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26 Responses to Speculation from Sun Media

  1. mojo19 says:

    Since Fletch has been saying all along that he wants UFA's under 30. That doesn't leave much.

    I predict he goes after Avery if he goes for any big names at all (how close are they to the Cap's floor if Sundin leaves and McCabe ends up being dealt?)
    My two leafs signings are as follows: Jason Williams, 27 year old centre out of Chicago, and Jeff Finger 26 year old D-man from the Avs.

  2. Kramer says:

    Sundin is gonna sign to play in the Costa Rica league.

  3. glips says:

    yeah, thats probably where he'll go.  After all those damn Costa Rican's are always trying to over pay, thus steal the NHL's good players to play on the best ice on earth…I mean if a third world country could afford anything, its Hockey players.  I completely see the logic

  4. leafy says:

    The only ice in Costa Rica is found in people's drinks.

  5. leafy says:

    I agree Mojo.  It's unlikely Fletcher will go after any older guys.  On the other hand, stay tuned for my recent article just submitted.  It includes a rumor that's a real doozy!

  6. mojo19 says:

    Not true!! My brother went for about 2 month's earlier this year and there happens to be 1 "ice hockey" rink in Costa Rica at least.

  7. mojo19 says:

    oooooohhh, give us a taste leafy

  8. leafy says:

    I'll give you a hint: he's a sure bet Hall of Famer.

  9. leafy says:

    Well there you go.  Grade 10 geography was never my strong suit.  Haha!

  10. careyprice31 says:

    hahahahahahah. Thats funny man lmaoo

  11. 08-09 says:

    The worst thing that could happen to leaf fans is what happened two years ago today on July 1st 2006.

    That was the day that i officially began to call for JFJ to be fired (probably around that time where Ferguson shifted his focus from building a team to a short-term plan thanks to MLSE – who knows how it went down).

    In any case, in a stretch of a couple of weeks – trading Raycroft, signing McCabe, Kubina, Gill – the Ferguson era failed … and i said as much at the time to a chorus of people who disagreed.

    Now we are in a totally different context with Fletch and with a supposed rebuild on the way. And yet i hear that the leafs are wanting to sign a whackload of free agents. Why?

    The only signings that should be made to day are for the long term – players who will cost the Buds less than $2 million and will either be quick one-year deals (Steve Valliquette for example, Mike Peca, Warrener) or longer term inexpensive deals for players who will be part of a good team in 3 or 4 years: Mike Commodore, even David Vyborny or Ladislav Nagy (players coming off Off-years and being paid less in FA because of it – the EXACT OPPOSITE of what JFJ did (overpaying mediocre players for good years that they'll never repeat).

    so that, in annoying underlined-bold, is what the leafs should do today. not to mention trying to trade BOTH Kubina and McCabe to clear more cap space.

    I'll be posting an article after this free agent frenzy outlining my thoughts on Fletch since June shortly.

  12. 08-09 says:

    those moves make sense, IF they don't overpay for them.

  13. ericthered1961 says:

    Fianally a voice of reason. …..but also….avoid signing players like Peca or anyone else who spends most of their brittle season on the IR.

  14. 08-09 says:

    well i only mentioned him because its just a one year deal, veteran presence, lack of centres on the leafs, etc.

    and if he goes on the IR, another spot opens for a younger player to come up and show his stuff.

    this should be a rebuild/audition year for toronto.

  15. goose says:

    vyborny- 3 years- 3 mill a year
    hossa- 4 years- 7 mill a year
    naslund- 4 years- 5 mill a year
    orpik-2 years- 3.5 mill a year
    hainsey- 2 years- 2 mill a year

  16. mojo19 says:

    Last season Finger made around league min, so I don't think he'll earn up over a $mil, but he's got a lot of skill. I always thought he was decent and then TSN put him in their top 10 available D-men list, so…

    And Williams earned $1.6 mil with the Hawks so what do you think he's worth? Maybe 2.25 or something? 4 year deal could work.

  17. mojo19 says:

    Good stuff. I agree, Nagy could be an interesting signing. Mike Johnson said (to the dismay of panel on the Score) that during his time in Phoenix it was Nagy who was the teams go-to-guy and not Doan.

  18. 08-09 says:

    so perhaps some of you out there are wondering 'what would 08-09 do on a day like today?'

    ok, maybe NO ONE is thinking that. (one day they will, bide your time 08-09, bide your time).


    simple, straightforward, lets tank it this year and build for subsequent years plan and TRULY set the table for the next GM (something i do not think Fletcher is doing that well actually):

    -resign Stajan (3 years)

    -resign Moore (one year)

    – T
    rade Kubina and Poni to Chicago for Barker and Lang [Lang a free agent after this year] 

    – Sign Valiquette for one year. Commodore for 3 at 1.8 per season, and MAYBE sign Vyborny to a modest 2-year deal at around $2.5 million per season.

    [call-ups: Williams, Newbury, Mitchell, Boyce, Foster] 


    Trades beyond July: Antropov (for a good return – his value is high NOW), McCabe (if possible – Cliff is playing this one right), White (as part of a package perhaps?)

    Loads of cap space moving forward and some intriguing possibilities for the next GM in terms of the three, low-risk UFAs signed (for cheap).

  19. mojo19 says:

    Naslund is 35, do you really want him for 4 years earning 5 mil a year? In that scenario the Leafs who will hopefully be in a position to contend for the playoffs 3 years from now will have Blake and Naslund, both 38, earning a combined $9 million.

    Naslund is on the decline, not everyone can keep it going in the later years. Look at John Leclair, Owen Nolan, Tony Amonte. I think Naslund is a good player but would only be worth that money on a 1 or 2 year deal to a team that is close right now.

  20. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    You should change your name to Tatoo, because your living on fantasy island. Pretty sure Vyborny already signed in Europe, and Hossa already turned down 7 million from the penguins. You think he'd take 7 million to play with Antropov, Steen, and blake or Crosby, Malkin, and Staal?

  21. mojo19 says:

    looks pretty good. Mike Commodore isn't really great I'd sooner let White or Kronvall in there and maybe leave room for Schenn to come up and get a look at the big show later in the year.

    Vyborny could be an interesting signing if you can get him at that price but I bet he goes for $3+ mil. I could be wrong though.

    And NO to trading Antropov, Nik's my boy, I love him. I HEART 80

  22. 08-09 says:

    yeah i've always been intrigued by Nagy. Sometimes to a fault. but the guy is still young and now his value SHOULD be lower than ever even for a UFA signing.

    if the leafs can pay him LESS than the $3.75 he made last year and pay him for only one or two years, that would be a solid signing IMO.

    David Vyborny is another potential bargain pick-up. A guy who is young (26), coming off his only really bad season, his stock is low, potential is high, pick him up now and see what happens (as opposed to what JFJ always did – see: Tucker, McCabe, Blake, Kubina, etc.).

  23. 08-09 says:

    Commodore had an off year with the Sens last year (so maybe thats what i like him so much? hehehe).

    I love Antropov but he's injury-prone – he has Tucker/McCabe written all over him in terms of resigning him at the end of next season to a huge, long deal, and watching him suffer through injuries.

    Sell high, buy low.

    If not Commodore, maybe Warrener for one year at the league min? maybe Montador?

    I just want to see some sandpaper on the blueline and see some sign from Fletch that he is preparing to trade one or both of McCabe or Kubina.

    I understand that he is trying to raise the stakes on a potential return on Kubina (laughably saying that Kubina is a stud blueliner etc) … but i think he is really serious about NOT trading the guy. this would be a HUGE mistake. hopefully he is just trying to raise his value.

    But if you are trying to set the table for the next GM and clear cap space and get an OK return … why not trade him?!?!

    The same thing goes for Nik. He is going to single handedly win the Leafs a few games (like he did the previous 3 seasons) … and drop us out of the top-5 or top-3 for next year's draft. trade him at the deadline or now for a solid return i say.

  24. mojo19 says:

    According to nhlnumbers.com David Vyborny is 33 years old…. So I don't know about him.

  25. mojo19 says:

    Maybe at the deadline. Nik's a leaf for life I think. I see him signing a 5 or 6 year deal after this season at around $3.5-4.5 mil.

    And ya, one veteran blueliner to come in as a number 4-5 guy like Rhett Warrener would be a good signing. As for Pavol Kubina, I don't think he's going to be traded, Wilson said he liked him during his press conference and Fletch like you mentioned has been praising him too. I would like to see if we couldn't get a good young guy back for him, but I don't think its going to happen.

    We'll just have to live with Kubina (probably) which if he plays the way he did in the final 20 games of last season wouldn't be so bad.

  26. 08-09 says:

    you are correct there … nix that idea … Nagy or Ryder – one year deals below $3 million sounds good to me.

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