Comments on: Sundin as a playoff rental?

By: smooth4488

smooth4488 — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:23:35 +0000

And I'll bet mine he definitely isn't going to Ottawa!!!!!

By: MR40

MR40 — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:27:02 +0000

Maybe Shawn Belle? He would fit in great with the Leaf's. They need a tough defensive defensemen. He might not be NHL ready yet, but he's close. He was a former 1st round pick too (in 2003 which was a really deep draft).

By: senators101

senators101 — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:42:34 +0000

First, if you think that Toronto has the same chance as Vancouver at winning a cup, you are delusional.

Second, no GM in the right mind would take that trade. There would be nobody for Sundin to play with after they get rid of that much. And who wants McCabe at 5.75 with a No-movement clause? Vancouver's defense is solid once everyone comes back from injury. Trading your captiain, a solid defensive defenseman, a solid prospect, and Morrison for Sundin and two pieces of sh*t who combined to make more than Roberto Luongo would be a move only JFJ would do.

By: NHLSlayer

NHLSlayer — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:40:58 +0000

This IS purely a rumour, but one I did hear today, that I thought I would pass along to you guys.

I did hear that Minnesota is VERY interested in Sundin, and would be willing to put together a package including Brian Rolston and Brent Burns.

It was an interesting little bit of info, to say the least, but who knows just how much truth there is to it...

By: NHLSlayer

NHLSlayer — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:34:04 +0000

Mostly, it was a comment that he figures Naslund is more or less equal to Sundin, which is a laughable farce.

That being said, I'm so sick of hearing about the Leafs from all the Toronto media that I'd be happy to see them trade Sundin. The fact still remains, however, that they won't trade him to a place like Vancouver, a team with even less chance of contending than Toronto. IF Sundin is traded, it will be to one of the powerhouse teams, a team that will hope Sundin is the missing piece of the Stanley Cup Puzzle.

Also, for Sundin to agree to the deal, it would have to include a REALISTIC shot at the cup.

By: broc

broc — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:32:23 +0000

That Columbus suggestion is OFF THE HOOK.

Derick Brassard, Gilbert Brule, and 1st rounder for Sundin is insane. The Leafs would be wise to give Sundin for 1 of those guys by himself. The deal you wrote could be done today if it were real. Done!!

By: KingCanada

KingCanada — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:24:22 +0000

That trade definatly works out except i would substitute Gillies with Sheppard since he is tearing up the AHL and take away the second rounder to even it out. The trade works salary wize also because the Wild have over 3 imllion in space and will have an extra 1.4 in space once Walz announces his retirement.

By: KingCanada

KingCanada — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:20:25 +0000

I agree that Colombus would make a good partner if Sundin would want to go there but i would NEVER consider trading for Brule. He is garbage, out of 3 seasons hes suited for colombus hes scored about a point every 4 games. Pretty lame numbers for someone picked 6th overall in 2005. Not to mentoin the kid is injury prone. We dont need another Wellwood, Colaiacovo or Antropov who suit up half the season.

The only prospects i would want to trade for from Colombus would include Voracek, Russell and Brassard.

I can see Brule turn into the next Daigle regardless of the fact he wasnt picked 1st overall by a Canadian team.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:39:55 +0000

Here's some what some teams may be willing to give and what I think the Leafs would want, I'm basing this off what Forsberg, Tkachuck, Weight, Smyth etc. were traded for last year (Weight the year before). And of course all the trades depend on the Leafs position in the standings and that of their trade partner come deadline. Let's assume these are teams comfortably 6th place or higher, and the Leafs are 11th-ish, not looking good.

Don't worry if these don't quite work out cap wise. There's cap space taken off for injuries, and its a day by day cap, so to keep it simple: a team $3 million under the cap during the first half of the season or so can spend $3 million over during the second half of the season. That being said here's some proposals, I'll usually throw in a roster player to make it work:

Calgary for Sundin: 1st rnd pick, 2nd rnd pick, Lombardi, M.Backlund, D.Moss
Detroit for Sundin: 1st rnd pick, 2nd rnd pick, Hudler, J.Kindl, J.Andersson
Colorado for Mats: 1st rnd pick, W.Wolski, TJ Hensick
Montreal for fun for Mats: 1st rnd pick, Kostitsyn, Grabovski, Pacioretty
Ottawa: 1st rnd '08, 1st rnd '09, Vermette, I.Zubov, O'Brien
Pittsburgh for Sundin, White, conditional pick: Jordan Staal. (Pick indicates that if Pittsburgh wins the cup/makes the finals Toronto gives them no draft pick, if they make the final 4 Toronto gives up a 2nd rounder, if they are eliminated in the 1st or 2nd round Toronto gives up a first rounder. This is a fun one, just getting creative tell me what you think about it.
Minnesota for Mats: 1st rnd pick, 2nd rnd pick, C.Gillies, B.Radevojevich
SJS for Mats: 1st rnd pick, 4th rnd pick, Vlasic, Clowe
CBJ for Mats: 1st rnd pick, Brule, Brassard

I went a little steep on Ottawa but them's the breaks.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:57:00 +0000

Yeah, this one makes sense to me, maybe throw in a roster player too, just to make some room for Mats on the team and dump a little salary for the Wild. Like how the Blues picked up Zigomanis in the Weight deal from the Canes, and Metropolit from Atlanta in the Tkachuck deal. So maybe what you mentioned plus Branko Radevojevic or something?