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		<title>By: bigscoup</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigscoup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I agree 100%.....good call&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100%&#8230;..good call</p>
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		<title>By: honestabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>honestabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Set on defense for years???&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s their single biggest weakness currently, and the biggest hurdle&#160;if the team wants to take it to the next level and become a legit playoff contender.&#160; There&#039;s no #1 guy on&#160;defense, no leader to solidify the defense corp., no shutdown guy that can play against the other teams&#039; best lines.&#160; That&#039;s the #1&#160;problem with the team.&#160;&#160;Right now the best defenseman is Markov.&#160; On the ice he&#039;s a legit top 4 player.&#160; But he&#039;s no leader.&#160; And asking him to be the top guy isn&#039;t fair to him or the team &#039;cause he&#039;s just not that kind of player.&#160; Komisarek is also a legit top 4 defenseman.&#160; But the rest of the corp. are essentially fillers.&#160; Guys that just fill out the roster, or as in Souray&#8217;s case, a power play specialist.&#160; The team will never contend with a below average defense.&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are some legit prospects in the system, but for right now, there&#8217;s more questions then answers.&#160; Mainly because most of the prospects like Fischer, Carle, Cepek and Valentenko are so young it&#8217;s hard to tell exactly how they&#8217;ll turn out, and even if at that, they&#8217;re all probably 2-3 years away.&#160; That said, none of them are &#8220;Blue Chip&#8221; prospects, so it&#8217;s really a waiting game.&#160; And who knows what&#8217;s going to happen with Yemelin.&#160;&#160;&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So in my opinion, the defense still needs a lot of work.&#160; And I get the impression from what Gainey has been doing that he&#8217;s also recognizes that fact.&#160; Build the team from the back end out.&#160; Goaltending, Defense, then forwards.&#160; There&#039;s been alot of people criticizing Gainey for the Rivet trade, but let&#039;s face facts, Rivet was a slug.&#160; Yes Rivet probably would have given his left nut for the team and yes he may have been a leader in the&#160;dressing room, but&#160;on the ice he was&#160;slow, had&#160;poor offensive instincts, and had only average skills.&#160; To get a first round pick for&#160;him was a steal.&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unfortunately, having a poor defense doesn&#8217;t just reflect itself on defensive stats like goals against and shots against.&#160; But it also presents a huge problem for the offence.&lt;br&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;-&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; &lt;/font&gt;If the defense can&#8217;t get the puck to the forwards, it makes it much more difficult to score goals.&#160; I&#8217;ve watched the defense struggle all year to be able to make the outlet pass to the forwards.&#160; It&#8217;s the same old story just about every game.&#160; The other team dumps the puck in our end and the defense has a hard time getting it out.&#160; And more often then not, they just dump the puck out.&#160; We need a defense that can go back and get the puck, not panic, and quickly move it up to the forwards.&lt;br&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;-&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; &lt;/font&gt;If the defense can&#8217;t get the puck out of their end, it forces the forwards to come back even deeper into the zone to help out.&#160; Which is a lot of what&#8217;s happening.&#160; The forwards are having to play too much defense to compensate for the inability of the defense to take care of business.&lt;br&gt;-&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; The defense also needs to be able to join the rush in order to create odd man situations.&#160; Montreal&#8217;s defense doesn&#8217;t do that very much.&#160; Again, it makes the situation very difficult for the forwards to score.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#8217;ve all heard the expression, &#8220;defense is a team game&#8221; or &#8220;team defense&#8221;.&#160; Well the flip side is also true.&#160; Offense is a team game.&#160; Montreal has tons of good young forwards in the NHL and minors.&#160; Now I&#8217;m not saying that they couldn&#8217;t use a few changes up front (like maybe some more Canadian players to give the team some passion and grit and get rid of the floaters) but what I am saying is that the D is far from being set for years.&#160; There&#039;s still&#160;alot of work to be done back there.&#160; Especially if they don&#039;t resign Markov.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Set on defense for years???That&#039;s their single biggest weakness currently, and the biggest hurdle&nbsp;if the team wants to take it to the next level and become a legit playoff contender.&nbsp; There&#039;s no #1 guy on&nbsp;defense, no leader to solidify the defense corp., no shutdown guy that can play against the other teams&#039; best lines.&nbsp; That&#039;s the #1&nbsp;problem with the team.&nbsp;&nbsp;Right now the best defenseman is Markov.&nbsp; On the ice he&#039;s a legit top 4 player.&nbsp; But he&#039;s no leader.&nbsp; And asking him to be the top guy isn&#039;t fair to him or the team &#039;cause he&#039;s just not that kind of player.&nbsp; Komisarek is also a legit top 4 defenseman.&nbsp; But the rest of the corp. are essentially fillers.&nbsp; Guys that just fill out the roster, or as in Souray&rsquo;s case, a power play specialist.&nbsp; The team will never contend with a below average defense.&nbsp;There are some legit prospects in the system, but for right now, there&rsquo;s more questions then answers.&nbsp; Mainly because most of the prospects like Fischer, Carle, Cepek and Valentenko are so young it&rsquo;s hard to tell exactly how they&rsquo;ll turn out, and even if at that, they&rsquo;re all probably 2-3 years away.&nbsp; That said, none of them are &ldquo;Blue Chip&rdquo; prospects, so it&rsquo;s really a waiting game.&nbsp; And who knows what&rsquo;s going to happen with Yemelin.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So in my opinion, the defense still needs a lot of work.&nbsp; And I get the impression from what Gainey has been doing that he&rsquo;s also recognizes that fact.&nbsp; Build the team from the back end out.&nbsp; Goaltending, Defense, then forwards.&nbsp; There&#039;s been alot of people criticizing Gainey for the Rivet trade, but let&#039;s face facts, Rivet was a slug.&nbsp; Yes Rivet probably would have given his left nut for the team and yes he may have been a leader in the&nbsp;dressing room, but&nbsp;on the ice he was&nbsp;slow, had&nbsp;poor offensive instincts, and had only average skills.&nbsp; To get a first round pick for&nbsp;him was a steal.&nbsp;Unfortunately, having a poor defense doesn&rsquo;t just reflect itself on defensive stats like goals against and shots against.&nbsp; But it also presents a huge problem for the offence.-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If the defense can&rsquo;t get the puck to the forwards, it makes it much more difficult to score goals.&nbsp; I&rsquo;ve watched the defense struggle all year to be able to make the outlet pass to the forwards.&nbsp; It&rsquo;s the same old story just about every game.&nbsp; The other team dumps the puck in our end and the defense has a hard time getting it out.&nbsp; And more often then not, they just dump the puck out.&nbsp; We need a defense that can go back and get the puck, not panic, and quickly move it up to the forwards.-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If the defense can&rsquo;t get the puck out of their end, it forces the forwards to come back even deeper into the zone to help out.&nbsp; Which is a lot of what&rsquo;s happening.&nbsp; The forwards are having to play too much defense to compensate for the inability of the defense to take care of business.-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The defense also needs to be able to join the rush in order to create odd man situations.&nbsp; Montreal&rsquo;s defense doesn&rsquo;t do that very much.&nbsp; Again, it makes the situation very difficult for the forwards to score.We&rsquo;ve all heard the expression, &ldquo;defense is a team game&rdquo; or &ldquo;team defense&rdquo;.&nbsp; Well the flip side is also true.&nbsp; Offense is a team game.&nbsp; Montreal has tons of good young forwards in the NHL and minors.&nbsp; Now I&rsquo;m not saying that they couldn&rsquo;t use a few changes up front (like maybe some more Canadian players to give the team some passion and grit and get rid of the floaters) but what I am saying is that the D is far from being set for years.&nbsp; There&#039;s still&nbsp;alot of work to be done back there.&nbsp; Especially if they don&#039;t resign Markov.</p>
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		<title>By: bailerson</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/the-carbo-cloning-has-to-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-219150</link>
		<dc:creator>bailerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i agree on the perezhogin thing 100 percent. if you remember the last playoffs that line with perezhogin and zednik was our best line. the kid is big and can play strong . ive the kid some ice already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree on the perezhogin thing 100 percent. if you remember the last playoffs that line with perezhogin and zednik was our best line. the kid is big and can play strong . ive the kid some ice already.</p>
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		<title>By: BieksaForMVP</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/the-carbo-cloning-has-to-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-219149</link>
		<dc:creator>BieksaForMVP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I like how you alll said he should have won the Adams in November lol. &lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how you alll said he should have won the Adams in November lol. </p>
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		<title>By: passionch</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/the-carbo-cloning-has-to-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-219148</link>
		<dc:creator>passionch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We may never see Montreal as a top 3 offensive team but&#160;I do not lose faith.&#160;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may never see Montreal as a top 3 offensive team but&nbsp;I do not lose faith.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: ferron</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/the-carbo-cloning-has-to-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-219147</link>
		<dc:creator>ferron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160;I also think that Price should be brough up next year he will be twenty and i don&#039;t think that&#039;s to young, after all if your are gonna be a great NHL player you can&#039;t start your career at 26. Patrick Roy came to the NHL at 18 years of age and wasn&#039;t drafted 5th overall and then went on to win the stanley cup and the conn smythe. I think that who ever is running things in MTL needs to wake up and stop letting are good rookies play in the AHL or the junior leagues till there mid twenties and lost that spark and energy that they once had in there early twenties. But why is it that the millions of habs fans across the world all know about it for the exceptions of Crapbo and Gaigney. Do any of you think that Lapierre should of been in Hamilton and Kostityn should of spend the year in Montreal and what was Latendresse doing on the first line at the begining of the season anyway, i think that every body knows where the problem is people are sick of seing 2-2 or 3-2 game what we want to see is at least for once be in the top three offence of the league , just this once please!&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;I also think that Price should be brough up next year he will be twenty and i don&#039;t think that&#039;s to young, after all if your are gonna be a great NHL player you can&#039;t start your career at 26. Patrick Roy came to the NHL at 18 years of age and wasn&#039;t drafted 5th overall and then went on to win the stanley cup and the conn smythe. I think that who ever is running things in MTL needs to wake up and stop letting are good rookies play in the AHL or the junior leagues till there mid twenties and lost that spark and energy that they once had in there early twenties. But why is it that the millions of habs fans across the world all know about it for the exceptions of Crapbo and Gaigney. Do any of you think that Lapierre should of been in Hamilton and Kostityn should of spend the year in Montreal and what was Latendresse doing on the first line at the begining of the season anyway, i think that every body knows where the problem is people are sick of seing 2-2 or 3-2 game what we want to see is at least for once be in the top three offence of the league , just this once please!</p>
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		<title>By: ferron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ferron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160;This was a great article and i think you should be the HABS new coach. Carby definitely slow down Perezhogin progress and some people might say that Perezhogin&#039;s not that good but i&#039;m sure that if he had played with koivu instead of Latendresse then he would of had more point than Guillaume. The same goes for Kostityn this guy is so good but will end up making it in the NHL at 26 just cause he doesn&#039;t play defensive,&quot; news flash&quot; Crapboneaux people are sick and tired of F----n coaches like you. Anyway all this to say that that was a great article and i agree with every thing you wrote.&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;This was a great article and i think you should be the HABS new coach. Carby definitely slow down Perezhogin progress and some people might say that Perezhogin&#039;s not that good but i&#039;m sure that if he had played with koivu instead of Latendresse then he would of had more point than Guillaume. The same goes for Kostityn this guy is so good but will end up making it in the NHL at 26 just cause he doesn&#039;t play defensive,&quot; news flash&quot; Crapboneaux people are sick and tired of F&#8212;-n coaches like you. Anyway all this to say that that was a great article and i agree with every thing you wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: passionch</title>
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		<dc:creator>passionch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Nice article!&#160; Personally, I don&#039;t think the problem with Montreal&#039;s defensive style is only because of the coach since there are quite a few former Habs&#039; coach who are coaching elsewhere who develops very offensive players.&#160; I agree that our top prospects would do so much better in teams like Buffalo and Detroit because they allow their young guns to play around good players and focus on what they are meant to be, offensive players.&#160; Don&#039;t get me wrong about the importance of defence but if 90% (rough estimate lol)&#160;of your team is on defensive yet your team is one of the best at allowing shots, something is just wrong.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article!&nbsp; Personally, I don&#039;t think the problem with Montreal&#039;s defensive style is only because of the coach since there are quite a few former Habs&#039; coach who are coaching elsewhere who develops very offensive players.&nbsp; I agree that our top prospects would do so much better in teams like Buffalo and Detroit because they allow their young guns to play around good players and focus on what they are meant to be, offensive players.&nbsp; Don&#039;t get me wrong about the importance of defence but if 90% (rough estimate lol)&nbsp;of your team is on defensive yet your team is one of the best at allowing shots, something is just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: habsoverserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>habsoverserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;You make some fair points.&#160; Montreal has no system.&#160; They are struggling to find an identity.&#160; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that you can&#039;t be a defensive system and go after finesse free agents, give up more shots than you take, rely on the powerplay and have negative plus minus players on your top two lines.&#160; Nor can you trade away your stay at home dman at the deadline, nor can you trade for an offensive defenseman who is a liability at full strength.&#160; Similarly, you can&#039;t be an offensive team and have no dominant forwards, bench your finesse players and trade away your former top scorer.&#160;&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Montreal doesn&#039;t need 50 goal scorers or 100 point men to win.&#160; Tampa, for all their offense,&#160;finished one win ahaed of Montreal.&#160;&#160;Montreal&#160;needs a consistent style that plays to their strengths, something that management has struggled to provide.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some fair points.&nbsp; Montreal has no system.&nbsp; They are struggling to find an identity.&nbsp; I agree that you can&#039;t be a defensive system and go after finesse free agents, give up more shots than you take, rely on the powerplay and have negative plus minus players on your top two lines.&nbsp; Nor can you trade away your stay at home dman at the deadline, nor can you trade for an offensive defenseman who is a liability at full strength.&nbsp; Similarly, you can&#039;t be an offensive team and have no dominant forwards, bench your finesse players and trade away your former top scorer.&nbsp;&nbsp;Montreal doesn&#039;t need 50 goal scorers or 100 point men to win.&nbsp; Tampa, for all their offense,&nbsp;finished one win ahaed of Montreal.&nbsp;&nbsp;Montreal&nbsp;needs a consistent style that plays to their strengths, something that management has struggled to provide.</p>
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