Comments on: The Edmonton Oilers have agreed to terms with Justin Schultz

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 01:25:56 +0000

Actually the one thing scouts have mentioned that sets the two of them apart, is Jake is the better skater. There’s a slight concern that Schultz won’t be able to play the same sort of game at the NHL level because his skating won’t work like it did at teh NCAA level.

But the kid is damn talented no doubt.

By: leafs_wallace93

leafs_wallace93 — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 23:04:20 +0000

If you were a Leafs fan wouldn’t you be too?

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 22:44:37 +0000

What I’m trying to point out Wallace is that statistics aren’t everything and not every highly touted prospect becomes the sure fire star people want them to be… Schultz is in that position now…

In all likelihood the kid ends up just fine but don’t name the kid an all star before he’s even played yet…

Nords named a collegiate player who had a fine rookie season.. transitioned well… That’s just one example… I named three examples of higher touted can’t miss prospects, missing…… I’m just stating that because Jake gardiner can do it doesn’t make schultz a lock….

No offense intended but you’ve been extremely negative since the draft…

By: leafs_wallace93

leafs_wallace93 — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 22:03:05 +0000

Well the Leafs did hire an interm GM basically to wait until Burke was available to be hired. He was identified as the best GM possiblity available (not just available at the time) so high expectations given the context were entirely called for.

Again, MLSE identified Burke one of if not the best in his field. Should we have expected him to just be ok and be fine with that?

By: leafs_wallace93

leafs_wallace93 — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 21:59:33 +0000

So by that logic a 1st overall draft pick should hold the same value as the player taken last in the draft. It’s a silly argument.

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 18:29:39 +0000

Well Hamilton and knight havent played yet… So you can’t yet quite factor then into the deal…. Seguin for kessel works out fairly… 30-40 goal a year guy for seguins likely ceiling of 70-80 points as a center is fairly evenly weighted one way to the other… Until Hamilton and knight make impacts or not, you can’t say for sure good deal or bad deal….

As far as subban to.mcdonagh…. Different players but I do like subban over mcdonagh… Not a slight on him… But i like PK over Ryan….nyr in my opinion had no right to ask for mcdonagh or subban in a deal revolving around a player with a horrible cap hit coming off a terrible season… We did them a favor taking gomez … And throwing in mxdonagh was sather fleecing gainey…. They got valentenko in the deal as well who really amounted to non of his hype… Just a flat out terrible deal and gaibey should have turned his back on it

By: lafleur10

lafleur10 — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 18:05:39 +0000

your right on some of the aspects about gainey tim but if you looked at what he done in terms of drafting and getting us into the playoffs ,we made it 50f the 6 years he was our g.m. burke has almost been there that long in toronto and haven’t even had a sniff of the playoffs ,infact you can say that they’re worse under his wtach they have regressed underhim,he like gainey made some bad moves like the kessel deal for example he got totally fleeced in that deal i mean they gave up their top line big franchise center in seguin,d. hamilton,and jared knight that is as bad or worse than us giving up macdonagh,infact i’d say it was worse,because at the time we had subban ,and macdonagh and i said on here that he was better than macdonagh and surpassed him on our depth chart,and the rangers wanted either 1 and i’m glad we didn’t give up subban in that deal!

By: Steven_Leafs0

Steven_Leafs0 — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 17:01:45 +0000

I’m not, 3M cap hit and 3M cash for a guy who could end up missing 40+ games due to injury.

Personally I think we should have just sent him threw re-entry waivers and only eaten the cap hit for one year, but with a cap over 70M, and people expect it to go up, it doesn’t really matter for next season.

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 14:32:47 +0000

*****gomez trade******

Not gomez “year”

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 14:31:26 +0000

Well I wouldn’t go as far as saying gainey was much better…. Gainey did lift the team out of its downward spiral and we had some success.. he made some good draft picks and some bad draft picks…. He also inexplicably included mcdonagh in the gomez year when there was absolutely no freaking reason for that…. He also traded for Scott Gomez … A man who i tried to defend and look at the bright side… But Scott made that so difficult…

Sure its partly because of gainey that the future does look as bright as it does… But its also gaineys fault partly for bringing us to a minor rebuild as such….

Gainey just wasn’t the same after the loss of his family members… It’s too hard for someone to push those emotions aside..