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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/time-to-consider-professional-female-players/comment-page-1/#comment-15919</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2002 12:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still, who&#039;s to say that it has to be eight teams? Couldn&#039;t we have four and let it grow from there? The National Hockey League started with four teams, so it&#039;s possible. Also, I&#039;d argue that without a pro league the female player pool in Europe wouldn&#039;t develop because girls don&#039;t have someone to look up to, which they would if there was a pro league.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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However, yeah, it may be a few years before this can actually come into being, but all I wanted to do with this article was at least to consider it and raise awarness that we need one. Even if today people decided they wanted a female professional league, it would at least be another year or two before it could get past the planning stage. I know that it&#039;s impossible for a women&#039;s league to start up tommorow, but that&#039;s not what I&#039;m expecting. I&#039;d be happy that, at least in a few years, a pro league was to start up, because I feel the women deserve it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, who&#8217;s to say that it has to be eight teams? Couldn&#8217;t we have four and let it grow from there? The National Hockey League started with four teams, so it&#8217;s possible. Also, I&#8217;d argue that without a pro league the female player pool in Europe wouldn&#8217;t develop because girls don&#8217;t have someone to look up to, which they would if there was a pro league.</p>
<p>However, yeah, it may be a few years before this can actually come into being, but all I wanted to do with this article was at least to consider it and raise awarness that we need one. Even if today people decided they wanted a female professional league, it would at least be another year or two before it could get past the planning stage. I know that it&#8217;s impossible for a women&#8217;s league to start up tommorow, but that&#8217;s not what I&#8217;m expecting. I&#8217;d be happy that, at least in a few years, a pro league was to start up, because I feel the women deserve it.</p>
<p>-DG</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/time-to-consider-professional-female-players/comment-page-1/#comment-15918</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2002 12:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well...I was referring to the other commenters who did make fine comments...I know you didn&#039;t (and for that matter SabresFanB)...however, instead of naming each commenter I decided a general statemet like &quot;all of you&quot; to save me some trouble. My mid-terms are coming soon so my mind may not be completely fine these next few days...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;I was referring to the other commenters who did make fine comments&#8230;I know you didn&#8217;t (and for that matter SabresFanB)&#8230;however, instead of naming each commenter I decided a general statemet like &#8220;all of you&#8221; to save me some trouble. My mid-terms are coming soon so my mind may not be completely fine these next few days&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rojoke</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/time-to-consider-professional-female-players/comment-page-1/#comment-15917</link>
		<dc:creator>rojoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2002 11:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a difference between quality and quantity.  Women&#039;s hockey is increasing almost exponentially in North America, but I don&#039;t think the same can be said for Europe.  Without quality players who can perform, it doesn&#039;t matter how many young women take up the game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The point I wanted to make is that if you really want to do this right, I think you&#039;d need at least 8 teams.  And there just isn&#039;t enough players to form that many teams right now.  And the European depth just isn&#039;t there to tap into yet.  Maybe after the next Olympics, the international competition will be better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The hotbeds of men&#039;s European hockey, Russia, Finland, Sweden, Czech Republic, Slovakia, are not producing a lot of women&#039;s hockey players.  Finland won bronze at SLC, but they are considered well below the US and Canada.  It may be a few years before a real women&#039;s pro league comes to fruition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a difference between quality and quantity.  Women&#8217;s hockey is increasing almost exponentially in North America, but I don&#8217;t think the same can be said for Europe.  Without quality players who can perform, it doesn&#8217;t matter how many young women take up the game.</p>
<p>The point I wanted to make is that if you really want to do this right, I think you&#8217;d need at least 8 teams.  And there just isn&#8217;t enough players to form that many teams right now.  And the European depth just isn&#8217;t there to tap into yet.  Maybe after the next Olympics, the international competition will be better.</p>
<p>The hotbeds of men&#8217;s European hockey, Russia, Finland, Sweden, Czech Republic, Slovakia, are not producing a lot of women&#8217;s hockey players.  Finland won bronze at SLC, but they are considered well below the US and Canada.  It may be a few years before a real women&#8217;s pro league comes to fruition.</p>
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		<title>By: titans</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/time-to-consider-professional-female-players/comment-page-1/#comment-15916</link>
		<dc:creator>titans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2002 08:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I made a fine comment? I wouldn&#039;t commend me for my comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a fine comment? I wouldn&#8217;t commend me for my comments.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of you have made fine comments and I want to commend all of you for making them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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That said, I still believe it is time for a women&#039;s professional league. A lot of the comments made say that no one will watch it, and, while I believe it is a valid point, I believe that idea has more to do with current societal attitudes more than anything else. People in the early 1900s never believed that women could be given the vote because they didn&#039;t think women could be &quot;smart enough&quot; to make such a decision and, with changing attitudes, we&#039;ve learned that what we once held before was not true. The same I believe can be said about women&#039;s hockey. I think that most can&#039;t see women playing sports because of society&#039;s perception that men are warriors and women run the house, notions that have existed for thousands of years, and thus, since sports players are &quot;warriors&quot; it is odd for women to be thought of as sports players because that would mean they&#039;re &quot;warriors&quot;. However, I believe that if people forgot that &quot;women&quot; are on the ice they&#039;d see a pretty good game and I believe because of it, people would start watching it because the games are good. Still, the notion that women cannot play sports has to disappear before this can happen, so, yes, we&#039;re still a long way from it. However, unless we start small- with four or five teams and maybe crowds of 10,000- it&#039;s impossible for it to gain any exposure that would get it to that point. Even if we start it now we&#039;d be years- perhaps even decades- before a women&#039;s league would get to the ideal point, but, unless we start we can&#039;t get anywhere in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of you have made fine comments and I want to commend all of you for making them.</p>
<p>That said, I still believe it is time for a women&#8217;s professional league. A lot of the comments made say that no one will watch it, and, while I believe it is a valid point, I believe that idea has more to do with current societal attitudes more than anything else. People in the early 1900s never believed that women could be given the vote because they didn&#8217;t think women could be &#8220;smart enough&#8221; to make such a decision and, with changing attitudes, we&#8217;ve learned that what we once held before was not true. The same I believe can be said about women&#8217;s hockey. I think that most can&#8217;t see women playing sports because of society&#8217;s perception that men are warriors and women run the house, notions that have existed for thousands of years, and thus, since sports players are &#8220;warriors&#8221; it is odd for women to be thought of as sports players because that would mean they&#8217;re &#8220;warriors&#8221;. However, I believe that if people forgot that &#8220;women&#8221; are on the ice they&#8217;d see a pretty good game and I believe because of it, people would start watching it because the games are good. Still, the notion that women cannot play sports has to disappear before this can happen, so, yes, we&#8217;re still a long way from it. However, unless we start small- with four or five teams and maybe crowds of 10,000- it&#8217;s impossible for it to gain any exposure that would get it to that point. Even if we start it now we&#8217;d be years- perhaps even decades- before a women&#8217;s league would get to the ideal point, but, unless we start we can&#8217;t get anywhere in the first place.</p>
<p>-DG</p>
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		<title>By: JB24</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/time-to-consider-professional-female-players/comment-page-1/#comment-15914</link>
		<dc:creator>JB24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that if there was a professional women&#039;s league started there would be more publicity which could make more girls interested in the sport, start playing at young ages and letting them develop which eventually would help the pro-league grow and enable them to make more teams. You have to start somewhere even if it is only 5 or 6 teams, I really think that u might get more players if girls could actually see more of it, although it would take awhile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that if there was a professional women&#8217;s league started there would be more publicity which could make more girls interested in the sport, start playing at young ages and letting them develop which eventually would help the pro-league grow and enable them to make more teams. You have to start somewhere even if it is only 5 or 6 teams, I really think that u might get more players if girls could actually see more of it, although it would take awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: UsedandAbused</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/time-to-consider-professional-female-players/comment-page-1/#comment-15913</link>
		<dc:creator>UsedandAbused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only way the womens game could ever be more enjoyable then the mens hockey is if they are skating around in thongs. Please... It is fine that girls play hockey in female leagues, but who the hell is going to want to watch it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way the womens game could ever be more enjoyable then the mens hockey is if they are skating around in thongs. Please&#8230; It is fine that girls play hockey in female leagues, but who the hell is going to want to watch it?</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2002 02:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read a stat back in 1998 that said that hockey has around 2 million players in total in all levels, paling in comparison to the other sports which have numbers in the hundreds of millions. How accurate that stat is up for debate, though, rojoke, seeing the quality of play increase this season I&#039;m led to believe the National Hockey League has more than enough players. Plus, you&#039;re right- there&#039;s millions of hidden gems in the minors that are not playing because they&#039;re &quot;too small&quot; (try telling that one to Theoren Fleury, Doug Gilmour or Mark Recchi).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Still, though, if we can&#039;t start with something small there&#039;s no way it can get bigger, plus, if girls see that they can &quot;make it&quot; playing hockey, I&#039;m sure that the number of girls playing hockey will skyrocket. There was virtually no European players in the NHL in the early 1970s, but once the NHL started to look over there for players, more Europeans started playing. Plus, after Jarri Kurri broke out, Europeans had someone to look up to and even more Europeans started to play hockey, leading up to the European boom we&#039;re in now. If girls, thus, saw that women are making a living playing the sport they love, I&#039;m sure there would plenty more giving hockey a try because they wouldn&#039;t feel their careers would end once they&#039;re cut from the Canadian Olympic Team. Hey, the men never got to their point if something like the NHL didn&#039;t exist, so what&#039;s to say that a female pro league wouldn&#039;t do the same thing?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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-DG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a stat back in 1998 that said that hockey has around 2 million players in total in all levels, paling in comparison to the other sports which have numbers in the hundreds of millions. How accurate that stat is up for debate, though, rojoke, seeing the quality of play increase this season I&#8217;m led to believe the National Hockey League has more than enough players. Plus, you&#8217;re right- there&#8217;s millions of hidden gems in the minors that are not playing because they&#8217;re &#8220;too small&#8221; (try telling that one to Theoren Fleury, Doug Gilmour or Mark Recchi).</p>
<p>Still, though, if we can&#8217;t start with something small there&#8217;s no way it can get bigger, plus, if girls see that they can &#8220;make it&#8221; playing hockey, I&#8217;m sure that the number of girls playing hockey will skyrocket. There was virtually no European players in the NHL in the early 1970s, but once the NHL started to look over there for players, more Europeans started playing. Plus, after Jarri Kurri broke out, Europeans had someone to look up to and even more Europeans started to play hockey, leading up to the European boom we&#8217;re in now. If girls, thus, saw that women are making a living playing the sport they love, I&#8217;m sure there would plenty more giving hockey a try because they wouldn&#8217;t feel their careers would end once they&#8217;re cut from the Canadian Olympic Team. Hey, the men never got to their point if something like the NHL didn&#8217;t exist, so what&#8217;s to say that a female pro league wouldn&#8217;t do the same thing?</p>
<p>-DG</p>
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		<title>By: SabresFanB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SabresFanB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2002 00:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you should be in the kitchen cooking me dinner&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should be in the kitchen cooking me dinner</p>
<p>jk</p>
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		<title>By: rojoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>rojoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2002 00:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one criticism about women&#039;s sports league that I&#039;ve always heard is that they will never draw crowds, for two reasons.  One, women typically would prefer to participate rather than spectate, and when they do go as fans, are predominantly with men.  Which leads to the second reason, and that&#039;s the fact that men don&#039;t like to watch women&#039;s sports.  Unless it involves jello, mud, or the slight chance of nudity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one criticism about women&#8217;s sports league that I&#8217;ve always heard is that they will never draw crowds, for two reasons.  One, women typically would prefer to participate rather than spectate, and when they do go as fans, are predominantly with men.  Which leads to the second reason, and that&#8217;s the fact that men don&#8217;t like to watch women&#8217;s sports.  Unless it involves jello, mud, or the slight chance of nudity.</p>
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