Trade deadline chatter starting to heat up

Maple Leafs general manager Brian Burke expects the Feb. 27 trade deadline to seem like a busy holiday, and he plans to have his shopping done early.

“Whatever moves we intend to make will be in advance of the deadline because I’ve never liked the price tag at the deadline,” Burke said.

Last year, the deadline was Feb. 28, but some players began moving as early as Feb. 9. Joffrey Lupul, Francois Beauchemin, Mike Fisher and Kris Versteeg changed teams early and the Boston Bruins picked up defenceman Tomas Kaberle 10 days before the deadline.


Based on his read on this year’s trade talk traffic, Burke anticipates a busy trade deadline.

“I don’t think the math ever changes,” he said. “The number of teams that think they can add a piece and get there is the same every year, and the pressure on general managers remains the same.”

Here is a look at what some teams might be looking to do over the next five-plus weeks:

• Nashville Predators: GM David Poile has been looking for offensive help, primarily a forward to play in his top six. If he can’t re-sign defenseman Ryan Suter, he could look to trade him. Suter can be an unrestricted free agent this summer, and it would be difficult for the franchise to lose him without gaining future help in return.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/1118963–trade-deadline-chatter-starting-to-heat-up


75 Responses to Trade deadline chatter starting to heat up

  1. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Well, they stuck Colborne at C the moment he came to the NHL…Besides last season, cannot say the same for Kadri. Yeah, he might be playing it in the AHL but his defensive game is not that strong for tha position.

    Same with Kessel, he was drafted as a C, but his talent level is an elite winger…Same with Kadri.

    I'm just saying if we sign Grabovski to 4 plus a season…That means were putting him in a similar category as players like Legwand, Kesler, Fisher, Carter, Pavelski, Dubinsky etc. All players who are making similar money.

    No offence to Grabovski lovers…but I would prefer those guys over him any day. If you can sign him to 3 years and 3.5 million…I think I would do it because we would not be burdened with it if he fails.

  2. reinjosh says:

    One, they haven't missed the playoffs yet. But your right, it does suck. But you can't just expect the second youngest team in the league to make massive leaps and jumps without some hardship. Some players will regress, others will do well(Lupul, Kessel). It's part of the game. At the end of the day, this team is still very young and learning. Look at the PK, it took a hell of a lot to start getting it going (and even now it could go south) but its starting to look up. 

    And yeah some player are stuggling but maybe thats because they have been miscast. Kulemin's production was pointed out by many non-Leaf people as unsustainable. Maybe, just maybe what we thought he was, isn't what he is. Maybe he's a great third line guy who had a fantastic season and is now being crucified for coming up short. 
    MacArthur has struggled and regressed but again, maybe he was miscast. Maybe he's more likely a tweener that got miscast.
    Grabovski again isn't really struggling. He hasn't taken a step back. He's still producing, this time without players around him producing and he's playing the same intense two-way game he did last year. He's not regressing at all and if you think he is your being moronic. 
    And many, many other players are doing much better. Gustavsson has improved, Kessel has improved, Lupul has improved, Bozak has improved. Kadri has improved (whether you like it or not, he's much better defensively and brings high end skill and is playing well for a 2nd year pro, first year NHLer), Phaneuf has improved, Gunnarsson has improved.
    So your completely and utterly ignoring the blatant fact that if you take what was last years team and compare it to this years team, only two players have really gone backwards (Kulemin and MacArthur).
    Lombardi, Steckel, Franson, Gardiner, Connolly, Liles are all new additions and can't really be said they haven't gone forward (even though Liles, Franson, Gardiner, Steckel are all playing better than last year).  And Armstrong, Komisarek, Reimer and Brown have struggled with injury.
    That leaves 7 players that have significantly improved. 7 players and yet your focusing ON F*CKING TWO PLAYERS THAT HAVE REGRESSED! How moronic is that?
    And by the way, you realize you may be doing the exact same about making decent paleyrs into great ones by holding MacArthur and Kulemin to that standard. Just so you know 😉
    And maybe you should read sometimes. Mojo has often said he liked those players,  not because they put up amazing stats but because they either played well on the Leafs (I'm not sure how you can crucify a player for that) or they brought something the Leafs lack. 
    And for your info, the only one I really loved was Kaberle. And thats because he put up 7 seasons above 40 points for us (and was on pace for another in his last season with us, and in two others as well) which is pretty damn good for a dman and pretty damn tough to do. 
  3. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Kulemin, have no idea where to start. That one can turn ugly.

  4. reinjosh says:

    He's actually on par with the Legwands, Fishers, Dubinsky's of the world…

    And numbers boy should check out his numbers on Grabo a little more…
  5. reinjosh says:

    And your Edmonton example is the stupidest idea I've ever heard from you. Like I don't even know. I expect a lot more from you man.

    So because RNH, Eberle and Hall are doing well, the team gets a free pass towards the basement? That's moronic.
    So why the hell do the Leafs get shit for improving in position and their core has improved (Phaneuf, Kessel, Lupul, Bozak)?
    What the hell kind of logic and reasoning is that?
  6. TheLeafNation91 says:

    No offence, but when I said you guys are delusional, this is why, you guys really look at offensive numbers…Never the complete package. I look at the entire package.

    That's why you guys really liked Ponikarovsky, Antropov, Kaberle, etc…Because they had solid offensive numbers. Which masked a lot of elements in the complete package.

    Yeah, he's decent defensively, but does he compare to what Fisher or Dubinsky would bring to this team? HELL NO. Dubinsky and Fisher play a more rugged game, are a lot bigger, and are pretty good defensively.

    Not to mention, Fisher would kill Grabovski in faceoff percentage which is actually one of my favorite stats. Faceoffs dictate possession and whose winning it more.

    Let's ask other fans who they want…Grabovski…or a struggling Fisher or Dubinsky? I think the results would shock you.

  7. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Okay, Phaneuf was voted the most overrated player in the league. Unfotunately, I agree. He is either really good or he's really bad. That is not really improvement. And yeah, Kessel, Lupul, Bozak…Those were our only questions coming into the season. But now, I think we have more questions then answers.

    As well, yeah, that was the question I poised to you and you never answered and went off topic.

    If I told you, before the season, that Kessel and Lupul were going to be on pace for 80-90 point seasons. Would you say we would of been a playoff team?

    Granted, their not out right now, but I don't expect them to be in the top-8 come April and I said that when they were winning because their play was not necessarily good.

    But answer the question and really think about it.

  8. reinjosh says:

    Comparable, par are similar terms. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Grabo brings more offense than they do, they bring more defence. The difference isn't enormous and you making it out to be is dumb. 

  9. reinjosh says:

    And dude, you gotta stop assuming thing. Just because I said on par or comparable doesn't mean I might think he's infinitely better than them. Just comparable. 

    I was simply mentioning how if he were to get similar cap hit, it wouldn't be the end of the world like you were making it out be.
    Dear me, your logic jumps are like bbruins. Frig. 
  10. TheLeafNation91 says:

    And…at the end of he day he has a cup.

    While, were still borderline playoffs.

  11. reinjosh says:

    What question? you haven't even posed one? How the hell are you even in university man? Your logic, reasoning and simple reading skills are so flawed its not funny. You must be some sort of engineer. You can't be this dumb.

    What questions do we have? Yeah we have to figure out who our second line players will be. Yeah we need to get our goaltending fixed. Not to many questions if you ask me. Maybe you struggle with more than one question at a time. Like a concentration thing.
    And would I have? Yeah I think I would have said they would be a playoff team but I'm not entirely certain why that matters at all. Its obvious they aren't the pieces struggling. They bear no meaning on this converation.
    Our problem is pretty simple actually. PK was killing us, goaltending was struggling and only Grabovski was really providing any offense outside of the Kessel/Lupul line (Bozak and Connolly produced mostly with them). I really don't see what your issue is.
    Your focusing on the step back of like two players. What the hell did you expect to happen? Every player to be awesome and us to be a top 3 team? Players struggle, it happens. Especially when your team is second youngest in the league. I don't see how your having such a hard time comprehending this. I've said that they are struggling (and yet somehow I'm "Mr. everything is alright", even though I don't think I've ever said).
    I honestly don't get why you keep bringing this stuff up. The teams growing and going through struggles. We have some hard times and some great times. Yeah hey look, you were right, the team wasn't a top 5 team in the East. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I'm pretty sure most of us said we expect the Leafs to fight for the 8th spot this year. 
    I don't understand what your trying to explain. Not a single person on here has said they think teh Leafs are without problem. Not a single person on here has claimed every player is doing awesome. Not a single person on here thinks the team is a top 5 team. We're just looking at things in a more positive light and saying "hey this part of team is struggling and we need to fix it, but this part is doing sweet".
    What the hell is wrong with that? 
    Man, your like a petulant child when they don't get their way. Chill the f*ck out and read some of our comments fully sometimes. They aren't all rainbows and sparkles like you and Leafy seem to think. 
  12. reinjosh says:

    So now cups are the be all end all? Ok Kaberle has a cup, therefore he's an awesome damn and your thoughts on him are wrong. Hey, I like your logic.

    Grabovski would be a decent piece to add to this team. Centers that play the game he plays aren't exctly commonplace.
    You do realize that letting Grabovski go and adding in Colborne in his place won't actually improve us next year right? It will make us worse. And the possibility exists that Colborne might not ever even reach the level Grabo is at now.
    I think I've figured you out. You want what you can't have…
  13. reinjosh says:

    Disregard all the little comments about stupidity and such. I'm being a dick, I apologize. I'm in an antagonistic mood. Way to just ignore it so far. 

  14. LeafsFTW17 says:

    lol fun fact,

    Beauchemin, Fowler and Visnovsky are all 100% on faceoffs this year for the Ducks.
  15. MystifoLeafs says:

    Interesting article in NY post today about New Jersey and the Parise situation…

    LINK: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/devils_playing_hort_oOguXWHhNy9EQBuGyjZ4cL

    In a nut shell it states that New Jersey is losing money and may need funds from the NHL but that is not the great part for us leaf fans. The word on the street is that the NHL wont let Lou give Parise that nice new contract and may have to auction him off at the deadline. Only problem is they can take back little to NO salary so a preemptive trade would need to go through before anything would happen but this should make for an exciting deadline.

  16. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    haha thats actually really neat. wonder what happened that in 3 different occations they had a defenceman take the draw!

  17. LeafsFTW17 says:

    I saw Fowlers earlier in the year, the center was waived out on a 5 on 3 so a D had to go in.
    Wouldn't losing to a Dman be like getting tackled by the kicker in footbal? lol

  18. Steven_Leafs says:

    I dont think this will affect Parise as much as people think. Obviously they have to shed salary but Parise's contract is only worth 2.4M in cash left this season and I doubt dumping his contract wont solve their issues overnight. So I assume the issue is that NJ is bleeding money this year paying Kovalchuk 6M in cash while he is going to make 11M next season. The simple solution would be to trade Elias for money that expires this season (picks would obviously be better).

    Hemsky for Elias, a 1st and a 2nd would be great for their playoff run (the more playoff rounds you win the more money you make). This may be an overpayment since most people think Hemsky is worth a 1st at best but NJ is desperate and tossing in an extra 2nd to take Elias' contract isn't that bad for them.

    Anyway my point was that if NJ can dump 5M+ in salary for next season then Parise can be re-signed, I believe the NHL will only block a re-signing if they add 5M+ without subtracting. If I were NJ I would cut my loses on Kovalchuk and try to get back everything I lost on him. lol.

  19. senators_choke says:

    Why are you arguing with LeafsNation91 when he is one of the only people here who calls it straight? 

    Check out his criticisms carefully. Where is he wrong? Every single thing he says is usually bang on. Same with Toronto77.

  20. senators_choke says:

    You're absolutely right, the Habs are garbage this year. And so is Buffalo.

    That's what makes these losses to both of these teams tough to accept. If were playing well, we would have destroyed them this past week. They were ripe for the picking. Very frustrating.

  21. reinjosh says:

    Well I think he means signing him to a deal in the offseason. 

    I've seen it mentioned that the ownership might force Lou to keep Parise for a playoff run and a run at at one or two potential rounds of gate where they won't have to pay salary on (which would be a big help to the situation). 
  22. Steven_Leafs says:

    yeah I know I was only disagreeing with the "move him at the deadline" comment. I doubt Parise gets moved for prospects or picks and moving him for rentals is just as pointless (Parise will most likely add more to a playoff run than rentals). Hopefully for NJ they can move Elias either at the deadline or after the season is over so they have the cash to re-sign Parise.

  23. LeafsFTW17 says:

    Will Parise want to resign? He is the captain but I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted out.

    New York will probably get him, lets all be honest haha

  24. toronto77 says:

    Tough shit for NJ. They have to take back picks and prospects. This team needs to start rebuilding or they will make the same mistake that the leafs did right after the lockout, which was refusing that the fact that they needed to rebuild because they were scared of missing the playoffs for a few years, which is what happened anyway.

  25. reinjosh says:

    He's wrong often. The two of you are just to proud to ever admit it.

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