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		<title>By: Hoondog2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoondog2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree the actual trades might be a little hopeful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the actual trades might be a little hopeful.</p>
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		<title>By: aj_furf</title>
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		<dc:creator>aj_furf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Leaf fan, I would LOVE these trades.&#160; Unfortunately, my logic is telling me you&#8217;re a bit off-base with your expectations.&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#8217;s no doubt a team that could pick up a package like Sundin-Kaberle-Tucker would be giving themselves a HUGE boost for the play-offs, but I don&#8217;t think a cream-of-the-crop player such as Phaneuf is what teams are willing to give up.&#160; When you take the reality that Sundin might not re-sign with the team that trades for him, would you trade Phaneuf for Kaberle and Tucker?&#160; I think the Leafs are more likely to find trading partners who are offering young mid-level players, prospects and/or draft picks for these players; very similar to the package the Flyers got for Forsberg.&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as Jason Blake goes, I have a hard time believing that he has any trade value.&#160; It&#8217;s fair to say that he&#8217;s just having an off-season, but when his contract calls for $4M for the next four years (after this one), he&#8217;s been recently diagnosed with Leukemia (albeit a treatable form), and he&#8217;s 34yrs old with only 9 goals this year, I just can&#8217;t see the Leafs being able to swap him for a good prospect like Bobby Ryan. &#160;Mind you, Brian Burke has handed out equally stupid contacts recently (please refer to Bertuzzi, Todd), and you can never disqualify a guy like Charles Wang, so it&#8217;s not out of the realm of possibility.&#160; Unfortunately, I get the feeling that Blake could turn out to be the next Sergei Samsonov and become everyone&#8217;s favourite waiver-wire pick-up.&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think your Kubina-Wellwood trade is feasible.&#160; Kubina alone could possibly land you a 1st rounder.&#160; I know this comment is subject to several Habs fans hollering at us for over-valuing our players, but we&#8217;ve all seen some teams throw away their 1st round picks at the deadline in exchange for just an &#8220;ok&#8221; player several times (unfortunately, as leaf fans, we&#8217;ve been on the opposite end of this equation more often than most).&#160; I can definitely see the Rangers as a suitor for Kubina, but I would expect a more likely trade would be for one of their pending UFA&#8217;s (in order to clear the cap space), plus maybe a 2nd rounder.&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is obviously personal opinion, but I can&#8217;t help but look at Wellwood and see a future Steve Sullivan.&#160; I was shocked when the Leafs waived Sullivan years ago and it was crushing to see how good he turned out to be.&#160; Of course, Wellwood could also go the route of Sergei Berezin and be nothing more than an answer to a trivia question in 5 yrs.&#160; I think he can be re-signed for cheap and I think he&#8217;s worth keeping for now.&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Poni for a Exelby is a wash and a deal that could be made based on contrasting needs:&#160; A decent defensive forward for a decent defensive defenceman.&#160;&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the Leafs could turn Gill into a 2nd round pick I&#8217;d say do it.&#160; It&#8217;s a realistic deadline deal that a GM desperate for a reasonably priced, hulking D-man would make.&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with waiving Raycroft.&#160; If Brian Burke couldn&#8217;t find a suitor for Bryzgalov, I can&#8217;t imagine anyone would give up even a 7th round pick for Razor.&#160; If he&#8217;s picked up off of waivers, the Leafs are still on the hook for $1m of his salary, but at least he becomes much more attractive to teams picking up the other half and only paying $1m for a pretty good backup.&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope I avoided dwelling on any specific trade you mentioned.&#160; I like your overall idea of offloading our veterans for draft picks/prospects and hopefully Fletcher will be able to pull off something along the lines of what you&#8217;ve suggested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Leaf fan, I would LOVE these trades.&nbsp; Unfortunately, my logic is telling me you&rsquo;re a bit off-base with your expectations.&nbsp;There&rsquo;s no doubt a team that could pick up a package like Sundin-Kaberle-Tucker would be giving themselves a HUGE boost for the play-offs, but I don&rsquo;t think a cream-of-the-crop player such as Phaneuf is what teams are willing to give up.&nbsp; When you take the reality that Sundin might not re-sign with the team that trades for him, would you trade Phaneuf for Kaberle and Tucker?&nbsp; I think the Leafs are more likely to find trading partners who are offering young mid-level players, prospects and/or draft picks for these players; very similar to the package the Flyers got for Forsberg.&nbsp;As far as Jason Blake goes, I have a hard time believing that he has any trade value.&nbsp; It&rsquo;s fair to say that he&rsquo;s just having an off-season, but when his contract calls for $4M for the next four years (after this one), he&rsquo;s been recently diagnosed with Leukemia (albeit a treatable form), and he&rsquo;s 34yrs old with only 9 goals this year, I just can&rsquo;t see the Leafs being able to swap him for a good prospect like Bobby Ryan. &nbsp;Mind you, Brian Burke has handed out equally stupid contacts recently (please refer to Bertuzzi, Todd), and you can never disqualify a guy like Charles Wang, so it&rsquo;s not out of the realm of possibility.&nbsp; Unfortunately, I get the feeling that Blake could turn out to be the next Sergei Samsonov and become everyone&rsquo;s favourite waiver-wire pick-up.&nbsp;I think your Kubina-Wellwood trade is feasible.&nbsp; Kubina alone could possibly land you a 1st rounder.&nbsp; I know this comment is subject to several Habs fans hollering at us for over-valuing our players, but we&rsquo;ve all seen some teams throw away their 1st round picks at the deadline in exchange for just an &ldquo;ok&rdquo; player several times (unfortunately, as leaf fans, we&rsquo;ve been on the opposite end of this equation more often than most).&nbsp; I can definitely see the Rangers as a suitor for Kubina, but I would expect a more likely trade would be for one of their pending UFA&rsquo;s (in order to clear the cap space), plus maybe a 2nd rounder.&nbsp;This is obviously personal opinion, but I can&rsquo;t help but look at Wellwood and see a future Steve Sullivan.&nbsp; I was shocked when the Leafs waived Sullivan years ago and it was crushing to see how good he turned out to be.&nbsp; Of course, Wellwood could also go the route of Sergei Berezin and be nothing more than an answer to a trivia question in 5 yrs.&nbsp; I think he can be re-signed for cheap and I think he&rsquo;s worth keeping for now.&nbsp;Poni for a Exelby is a wash and a deal that could be made based on contrasting needs:&nbsp; A decent defensive forward for a decent defensive defenceman.&nbsp;&nbsp;If the Leafs could turn Gill into a 2nd round pick I&rsquo;d say do it.&nbsp; It&rsquo;s a realistic deadline deal that a GM desperate for a reasonably priced, hulking D-man would make.&nbsp;I agree with waiving Raycroft.&nbsp; If Brian Burke couldn&rsquo;t find a suitor for Bryzgalov, I can&rsquo;t imagine anyone would give up even a 7th round pick for Razor.&nbsp; If he&rsquo;s picked up off of waivers, the Leafs are still on the hook for $1m of his salary, but at least he becomes much more attractive to teams picking up the other half and only paying $1m for a pretty good backup.&nbsp;I hope I avoided dwelling on any specific trade you mentioned.&nbsp; I like your overall idea of offloading our veterans for draft picks/prospects and hopefully Fletcher will be able to pull off something along the lines of what you&rsquo;ve suggested.</p>
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