Comments on: Where will Kovalev go? Palffy on the move? Which GM will fish Nolan out of the t http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/ NHL - Hockey Trade Rumors, providing NHL Hockey Trade Rumors since 1996 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:26:40 +0000 hourly 1 By: Trek505 http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23468 Trek505 Sun, 09 Feb 2003 16:13:44 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23468 get rid of McCarthy and Messier…and bring up players such as Garth Murray and John Tripp…so that we finally have atleast 3 rookies up playing…then next year start bryce lampman who has been playing amazing in the minors and bring up Fedor Tjutin our great defensive prospect from Russia…so our team looks like

Bure Lindros Satan

Hlavac Nedved Dvorak

Lundmark Holik Tripp

Barnaby Murray Petrovicky

Tjutin Poti

Bouchard Malakhov

Kasper Lampman

(then maybe resign Leetch after he has been traded as a rent a player)

]]> By: pmrocks http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23467 pmrocks Sun, 02 Feb 2003 13:49:27 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23467 I see the Rangers going after Jan Hlavac and trading Mikael Samuelsson as reported in the NY Times on Feb. 2. Then, I see them acquiring Miroslav Satan for Dale Puriton and Rico Fata. If they were to fall out of contention by the Trade Deadline, Brian Leetch will be gone. He will definitely be traded to the Red Wings for Jiri Fischer and Henrik Zetterberg. Hopefully with all the players coming back from injuries the lineup will look like:

Bure Lindros Satan

Barnaby Holik Petrovicky

Dvorak Nedved Hlavac

McCarthy Messier Lundmark

]]> By: philly-schmoo http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23466 philly-schmoo Sun, 02 Feb 2003 09:36:52 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23466 this is a replt to the philly pit trade, gange would stay home, but clarke has wasted good talent in lame trades before, remember niniima, or forsberg wearing a flyers sweater?? how about Brind’amour??, anyway I think maybe premeau, brashear, desjardins, would be a better fit, since most of us in this town are disgusted with the named players, and hey where do you guys find this info, email me @ philly_schmoo@yahoo.com

]]> By: pffinlr http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23465 pffinlr Sat, 01 Feb 2003 21:01:40 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23465 1. Getting ANYTHING in return for Lindros was a steal. It could have been worse, ask Patrick about the Jagr trade.

2. Why on Earth would anyone want Recchi, Desjardins or Therien? I would like to see them gone too but the Isles aren’t going to give you something with value for any of them. Especially Therien. If the Flyers could even get a bag of new pucks for him they should jump all over it. No one is paying $2.6 mil for a #6 d-man…welll, except for the Rumprangers (go figure). Clarke knows his only hand to play is his draft picks and cash. What team wouldn’t want those, plus a future prospect? They can’t trade away any more prospect goalies because they’re almost all gone. Speaking of prospects, IMO Clarke’s first job is to sign Pitkanen to a conract not a trade. The Flyers could have a solid group of top-4 d-men in 2-3 years: Johnsson, Pitkanen, Woywitka and Seidenberg make for a good mix of skill and size.

]]> By: pffinlr http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23464 pffinlr Sat, 01 Feb 2003 20:43:37 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23464 No doubt he’s not done a wonderful job. However, when the issue turns to the CBA, why is he more vilified than Goodenow? They are both to blame for this mess. The onwers and players are both after the same thing, more money. They both have that right. But Goodenow’s not even talking to Bettman about the CBA in order to avoid a lock-out. US, the fans, are the most important group. Players and owners come and go but hockey fans are lifetime members. Right now, they are losing us and Goodenow better open his eyes to reality. My wife andI can easily go to an minor pro game for under $20. I’m not saying it has to cost $20 for an NHL game but over $100 is waaaaayyyy out of control. Goodenow, needs to start talking because right now he’s the biggest reason talks aren’t happening.

]]> By: Kraftster http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23463 Kraftster Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:58:48 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23463 Alright, we’re disagreeing on a bunch of different levels. For one thing, I am not quite sure I am following when scoring goals or setting them up was not for the team? I would classify a team player as someone who is not selfish with the puck, sticks up for his guys, shows heart. I’m intersted as to what you would add/subtract from that. Mario is not selfish with the puck, he has far more assists than goals. I’ve been to many penguin games and seen Mario stick up for the rest of the Pens, and when he’s got that fire in his eyes, there isn’t anyone in the league with more heart. THe penguins are not a good team defensively. When a player plays 20+ minutes of hockey a night, and the team has a D that is subject and inconsistent goaltending, that means there is a 33% chance that when the other team scores a goal, mario is on the ice. A weak defensive team = lots of minuses. Agreed this statistic lends itself to poor defensively play. On the other hand, the Pens do not play an all offensive gun slinging style like they did a couple years ago like you seem to keep saying. With really only 4 guys that can play that way, it’s not very conducive to have other scrappy goal guys playing wide open east to west style hockey. I watch most penguin games, they have even resorted to the 1-4 sometimes this year. Mario is also on the ice for all 2 minutes of the pp most times. That means any shorthanded goal that is scored is another minus. I think that justly explains his =/- differential. While it is a -4, I don’t think that really says much of anything about Mario’s INDIVIDUAL play. That isn’t a -4 for 4 times the other team scored because of mario’s missed assignment, that is very much a statistic that is team related. A guy like Mario lemieux is far more valuable closer to the blue line when the puck is in his own end. When mario breaks out of the zone it’s like he sees everything that is going to happen. When there are 2 wingers on the ice that will never see the game as well as he does, why not have those guys dig behind the net defensively and get the puck to mario to jump start the breakout. Despite this Lemieux i still often times backchecking in his own zone behind the net. You are right, a leader should inspire, motivate through his play. Mario does. He IS the greatest player in the game. He IS the most complete player in history. A leader brings a last place team to the stanley cup in 4 years. A leader makes a 40 goal scorer out of Rob Brown, 100+ getter out of Dan Quinn. A leader is Mario Lemieux. For what he is. And what mario lemieux is is NOT the most defensive center in the league. He is the most gifted player on the ice!

]]> By: tohspals http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23462 tohspals Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:11:31 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23462 The Kings cant move him for 3 reasons.

1. Without a superstar coming in return for him the limited offense generated would dissapear.

2. He has a bargain price tag so getting someone else with the same level of production would cost more.

3. LA is a fragile market which this ownership knows and the season ticket holder base will go from our all time high of 11K back to the post Gretz days of 5K within a year if not immediately if a major talent at the NHL level is not coming in return. We are finishing the first five year plan they sold the fans so to fire sale now would ruin the credibility and momentum built the last 2 seasons.

]]> By: CaptainModano http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23461 CaptainModano Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:26:32 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23461 you hear things in your paper? i just read mine….

]]> By: Anvil http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23460 Anvil Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:58:47 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23460 I am a Pens fan and I really hate to see Kovy leave at all. However, I think that his trade is inevitable, but I think that with the push the Pens are making for the playoffs, they are going to hold onto him until the end of the season unless a really good offer comes through.

I have heard the current offer by the Leafs and it sounds like a good deal, but I don’t see it happening. I think that if anything, the teams who are already in the top 8 spots are gonna try to hold onto their players unless they are in real need for a specific player. The Leafs would be giving up too much and could lead to their demise in the playoffs if the deal goes through. And the Pens could use a good denfenseman and a foward or two…and some cash would not hurt.

To me, a Pens fan, we have seen Kovy grow immensely as a player and now possilby could be saying goodbye. What angers me is that if this deal goes through, the Pens are essentially acting as a minor league team to the other bigger market teams. We bring in a player, let them mature and/or improve then give them up only to do the whole process over. What I want to know is, when will this stop?

I definitely won’t be suprised to see Kovy go in the off season, but I don’t think now is the right time.

]]> By: pffinlr http://hockeytraderumors.com/where-will-kovalev-go-palffy-on-the-move-which-gm-will-fish-nolan-out-of-the-t/comment-page-3/#comment-23459 pffinlr Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:13:41 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress24/?p=4732#comment-23459 IslesfaninHotlanta…are ya nuts? EVERYBODY was laughing and talking about Roenick’s comments. Snow’s comments sounded like a pre-teenager’s foul attept…they fell about 3 feet short of their mark and the only reason his comments made print is because Roenick blessed him with a witty reply. Dude, everyone was clowning on Snow after this, you gotta realize that. Maybe you missed the boat.

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