will Vinny Lecavalier ask to be traded?

Get him going – one way or the other

Tampa’s continued (and not unexpected) mediocrity had ex-Bruin Rick Tocchet, the Lightning bench boss, questioning the passion of some of his charges, including captain Vinny Lecavalier. “He has to show us that’s he’s ready to play,’’ said Tocchet, disillusioned that the franchise center has only potted three goals this season. Meanwhile, star-in-the-making Steve Stamkos, only 19 years old, carried 12 goals into last night’s game at Montreal. Tocchet is right; the Bolts need more out of their franchise center, but it also could be that the coach’s words are a way to prompt Lecavalier to reach for his “Get Out Of Jail Free’’ card (surrender his no-trade clause, which activated July 1) and bring the financially-shaky franchise $7.727 million in annual cap relief.


32 Responses to will Vinny Lecavalier ask to be traded?

  1. cam7777 says:

    Vinny, for your own sake, leave Tampa!  The organization has soured you, and reduced you to being a living, walking advertisement for spray-on tans.  Waive your no-trade-clause, and go to a team that has at least something resembling a fanbase that can push you.  It's the Stamkos show in Tampa now….

  2. dumbassdoorman says:

    I think Vinny would look great in LA. They have the talent to surround him and give up to make the deal. It would also make them a legit playoff contender. They have everything Tampa needs to make the deal.

  3. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    LA will never spend to the cap. In the next few years, LA's young guns are gonna need raises. Kopitar just signed a long-term deal worth almost 7M per season. If they trade for vinny, that's gonna be almost 15M invested in there 1st and 2nd line centers. Vinny's contract will cripple them.

  4. Kramer says:

    I wanna learn to speak English like prince Charles.

  5. mojo19 says:

    Not many teams would take that contract. $10 million per year until he's 36 years old, then goes down in the last 4 years.

    and if he doesn't retire at age 37 or 38, you could end up with a $7.5 million cap hit on a player who maybe is only as good as a Bill Guerin, or Mike Modanno (now), or think of any other former star player who is getting up there in years. Are any of them worth that kind of money?

  6. mon167 says:

    ya i'd like to have lecavalier on the habs but it just wouldn't be a good idea..for any team! 7.5 million in a cap world should only be for top scorers and in his late 30s he might not be bad but not worth 7.5!

  7. cam7777 says:

    Are there any other teams that have had success spending that much on their top two centers?  Well, I guess there's the league champions, but who else?  I think LA would be quite pleased if they went into the playoffs this year looking like this up front:

    Smyth / Kopitar / Williams
    Tanguay / Lecavalier / Brown
    Frolov / Stoll / Simmonds
    Ivanans / Handzus / Purcell

  8. cam7777 says:

    Well, the idea with that contract is that the league's salary cap will continue to rise once this little economic road-bump is over with.  7.5 million 7 years from now might be more like 4 million right now.  He will retire by 37 if he has become a burden to his team.

  9. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    The key words you used was "this year". They have the space "this year". Realisticaly, with vinny they make the playoffs easily, but there not gonna win the cup by any stretch of the imagination. I know they haven't done shit for awhile and are likely in "win now" mode, but in the near future when it's raise time for other players, there's gonna be 15M spent in 2 centers for the next 6+ years. Let's be honest here, Vinny and Kopitar arent anywhere near Crosby and Malkin status. Vinny may have a ring like Crosby and Malkin but Neither him or Kopitar are anywhere close to putting up there kind of "elite" numbers.

  10. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    Vinny's in his prime right now and isn't even playing at a current $4M level. Can u imagine him 7 yrs from now?

  11. KingCanada says:

    What raises?  All their young guns are signed long term…

    Kopitar 2016
    Brown 2014
    Quick 2013
    Williams 2011
    Doughty 2011 (he will need a raise but hes making 3M now with bonuses, wont make that much of a raise, maybe to 5M)

    Most of those guys are making the money they should and unless they become superstars and score on a per game basis they wont get a raise.  The only one who IMO will get a raise is Doughty because he runs their defence basically.

  12. KingCanada says:

    To LA: Vincent Lecavalier

    To TB: Michael Handzus, Brayden Schenn, Thomas Hickey, 1st round pick.

    Might seem a little steep but we all know Vince is capable of much more, he would have much better linemates on the 2nd unit in LA (Smyth, Williams, Frolov, Brown) and of course would get some PP time with Kopitar and Doughty.

  13. SK74 says:

    First of all thats way too steep IMO. drop the 1st, maybe makeit a 3-4 rnd pick eve. Also if im the GM of LA, iove been building this team for a while now, im not  stopping now. in a few years a lineup featuring kopitar, brown, doughty, hickey, purcell, schenn, moller and Teubert? It's gonna be a bit rediculous. why blow that up to get lecavalier, sure he is lecavalier butim sure all those players willmore than make up for what he brings, I think kopitar will be as good as lecavalier, maybe even better if lecavalier keepsthis up. Then there's also the cap, when you have a team consisting of that many young players that will be need raises, even if just to like 3 million, you cant have 2 centers makingover 7 million, and lecavalier in a few years 10.

    AND i would jsut hate to be responcible for seeing hedman stamkos schenn and hickey playing together in a few years.

  14. KingCanada says:

    Everyone keeps saying they will need raises bla bla bla…the fact is most of the team is already signed long term, and the ones that arent are already making the money they deserve and wont get much of a raise.  The only player that should get a raise is Doughty.

    Just a year ago people would of ripped that trade proposal saying LA should give more.  Lecavalier is a great player, just because he is having a bad year doesnt mean his value plumets.  He is still a world class player and most likely just needs a change in scenery.

    BTW Pittsburg seems to be doing fine with two 8.7 million dollar centermen, San Jose as well has three 6M+ forwards and the Rangers as well are in the same situation.  So yea Im gonna go ahead and say "non issue" in terms of having two 7M centermen…

    LA has been rebuilding forever and we all know in the cap world your window to win a cup wont last forever.  They are playing strong this year and they need to start building a championship team.  Why do u think they traded for Smyth?

  15. cam7777 says:

    There are no raises coming though – there whole team is signed long term, and Bernier hasn't even started his career yet, nor have they started to chip away at the entry-level deals for Hickey and Teubert.  Not only that, but they will be losing useless contracts as they go along.  Handzuz, Stoll and Williams leave before any of their young guns need raises.

    Kopitar, Lecavalier, Stoll down the middle is an enticing proposition, and one that is sustainabile, by my estimations, for at least 5 years.

  16. cam7777 says:

    He's not the first player to hit a bump in the road.  He needs a change of scenery.  No one doubts his skill….

  17. cam7777 says:

    I tend to agree that Lombardi won't want to move two prospects like Schenn and Hickey, but I think he might consider moving one of them.

  18. cam7777 says:

    Three-way trade:

    to the Tampa Bay Lightning:
    Mikhail Grabovski, Alex Ponikarovsky, Nik Kulemin, 1st round pick 2010 (LAK)
    to the Los Angeles Kings:
    Vincent Lecavalier, Alex Tanguay, 2nd round pick 2011 (TOR)
    to the Toronto Maple Leafs:
    Brayden Schenn

    The Kings basically make a Neuwendyk/Iginla swap with Lecavalier/Schenn.  The Lightning get a whole 2nd line unit to play behind Malone/Stamkos/St.Louis, a boatload of cap and salary relief, and a 1st round pick.  The Leafs get a coveted prospect, and replace their current 2nd line with Stalberg/Bozak/Hanson.  The Kings give up only one prospect to give themselves one of the deadliest forward corps in the league, and secure their center-ice position for years to come.

    Fans on this site will say the Leafs rob the deal, but I actually think they could get more back in this deal.  Grabo, Poni and Kulemin are all 20 goal scorers, who will be affordable.  Poni is in his prime, Grabo is cheap and doing well, and Kulemin is going to be a beaut.

  19. mojo19 says:

    Even with a change of scenary and better play from Vinny, its a bad contract 3, 4, 5 years from now.

  20. Canadienbigcenter says:

    The best place to Vinny is Boston.
    And Boston is the team with the most pick and prospect to give.

    To Boston : Vinny

    To Tampa : Savard ( free up 5M ) + fisrt 2009 + Tor fisrt 2009

  21. KingVilly91 says:

    i'm gonna have to disagree they dont have the cap for him and i would think the best place for him would be one of the canadian teams

  22. reinjosh says:

    Yah it wouldn't be a problem for at least a few years. THey don't have any major raises to make for the team and they can replace Quick with Bernier when Quick needs one, and they have Hickey and Teubert to replace anyone on defense.
    They are in a really good position. The only thing with brining in Vinny is the length
    its more or less if he can keep it up till he is 37 and then trying to get him to retire by then. I have no problem thinking he can play well till he is 35 and decently till he is 36 or 37. It would just be dealing with the last two years of him at 7.5 if he doesn't retire.
    Its funny because Stamkos is quickly taking over this team, but if you look back at the start of last season, Vinny was immovable and everyone was claiming Stamkos was a bust because of his really slow start. Amazing how things change (I for one, quite adamantly still believed in Stamkos, I love him man).
    Its also amazing how well Dean Lombardi has put together Los Angelos. Say what you will about Lou or Holland or maybe even Sutter, Lombardi is easily one of the best GM's in the game and can hold his own against Holland and Lou. I've always been a big fan of Lombardi since his days in San Jose (that team still has players Lombardi brought in) and he is proving why he is so great. Getting Smyth was a stroke of genius too.

  23. reinjosh says:

    stupidest idea ever
    while I would love for the bruins to handcuff themselves by doing this, it would never happen
    they don't have the cap space to do this, now or in the next 2 seasons.

  24. KingCanada says:


    Usually ur level headed but thats ridiculous for the Leafs.  I love the idea of having B.Schenn but thats robery…  The Leafs give up Poni (UFA), Grabo signed for a bit, Kulemin (RFA) AND a 2nd round pick?!?  Just for Brayden Schenn who isnt even sopposed to be a big time scorer…You have got to be out of ur mind bro!!

    IMO B Schenn will turn out to be like Dustin Brown or Scott Hartnell maybe.  What were giving up for that would have to be a franchise player it seems!!

  25. reinjosh says:

    yah, I would love to get him but thats too much for us to give up
    We would have to be getting a pick pack in that and not giving up a pick at the very least

  26. KingCanada says:

    Well I was just throwing big names out there…doesnt HAVE to be those exact prospects…altho I believe theyd have to take Handzus back due to the cap.  It basically has to be a king's ransom and LA definatly has the depth to make such a trade.

  27. KingCanada says:

    Ya exactly!  Like I know some of those guys are expendable to us…but for a "projected" 60 points ish player…key word PROJECTED lol no garantees… Its just waaay too steep and then were taking 3 forwards off our roster and replacing them with no one??  Doesnt make sense now or after the season eigther lol.

    I think everyone kinda fell in love with the cinderella two Schenn brothers story that is Burke's fault.  I dono I think people just overvalue the kid….would love to have him but not at that price.

  28. cam7777 says:

    I know it's a lot, and like I said, I believe we could maybe get a high pick back as well, or try to nab Downie from the Lightning.  The thing is, we're going to have Stalberg/Bozak/Hanson ready for NHL duty before we have Poni/Grabovski/Kulemin all off the books.  It just makes sense to trade away a whole line, in that sense.

    I guess I just really want Brayden Schenn on the team.

    Veteran Core: Kaberle, Hagman, Stempniak, Komisarek, Beauchemin
    Young Core Players: L. Schenn, Kessel, Gustavsson
    Top Prospects: Kadri, B. Schenn
    Young Players: Stalberg, Tlusty, Bozak, Hanson, White
    Depth Prospects: Ryan, Blacker, Gunnarsson
    Bubble Guys: J. Mitchell, Exelby

    That is just a sexy looking depth chart, and we haven't even added free agents (Savard/Marleau).

  29. cam7777 says:

    I thought he had been a bit to laid back about improving the team actually.  It has taken him a long time to bring the club back to respectability, and they are still a long way from securing a playoff birth.  The team is coming off a hot-streak now, and it will be interesting to see how they respond to adversity.  Acquiring Lecavalier would be insane for that club.  Yea, it might be a bad move 7 years from now, but if they become Cup competitive in that time, it will have been well worth the price. 

  30. broc says:

    Tampa owners are probably kicking themselves for not trading Vinny to MTL for that nice prospect package now.

    The interest in Vinny right now is probably zero to nil. 10 mil a year for many years… brutal. That kicks out most of the medium/small market teams from even looking Vinny's way.

    Maybe they could do a straight trade for Gomez!!! LOL

  31. HABSSTAR says:

    I know you're joking but I wonder how long BG would think about it if it was offered like that.

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